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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

This, I think, is the biggest issue this election. These next four years are fucking crucial to what the future will look like under extreme climate change. I hope his summer wakes some people up, because we all know it’s going to be fucking devastation after devastation. And all these people on lemmy saying Biden is participating in genocide and therefore they won’t vote for him…it’s-

I’ve explained it so many times. The country is in bed with Israel. Not Biden. Someone told me the other day “it won’t get worse for Palestine under trump. It can’t. If anything it will stay the same.” I said, okay, then how can you justify chucking the environment, women’s reproductive health, lgbtqia+ people, and all vulnerable groups into the fire if things will be the same for the apparent single issue you care about? And it’s not even that they care so much about Palestine. It’s just the issue du jour. every single time an election rolls around, there is always that one geopolitical or social issue that people are talking about. They can’t pull their heads out of it. And sadly, it’s not even that they care. It’s that people who they think are on the right side (“their” side) are riled up, so they have to be more riled up to be more just and on the righter side of history. And then when wing authoritarian puts a bunch of Christofascist judges into lifetime positions? Well then everyone gets very upset.

That’s a pretty grim outlook, but I can’t help but see it that way. People were changing their profile pictures to French flags after the attacks there, they gave a shit about Ukraine and were riled up about that—until oct. 7, they gave a shit about Syria when that was the issue everyone was discussing. Flint. Haiti. The Uyghur concentration camps—that one hasn’t been solved by a long shot. Where is all the rage that everyone was feeling for that?

None of these things got solved. They just stopped being in people’s feeds and like lemmings, they stopped being so passionate about it. People are so quick to be like, “the media is manipulating everyone (else)! They’re telling them what to think and changing the focus of ____!” While at the same time they are trailing behind whatever they choose to follow.

It’s fucking maddening. We all know Palestine is a huge problem. There is a fucking genocide going on. But there is no option to fix that in this election. They’re almost separate issues. I mean, they are. Your country and the money behind it are committing genocide. The president is a figurehead on this particular issue. Throwing everything else away for a decision that won’t alter the thing you supposedly care about (at the moment) is so, so stupid. And I guarantee you there will be another issue that becomes everyone’s most important issue long before the problem of Israel/palestine is solved. But you watch, everyone will stop caring.

I’m not a democrat. I don’t support Biden. I don’t think the democrats are good enough. They are a corporatist organization that does plenty of harm for their own self interest. But right now, we don’t have time to say”if it’s not 100% in line with my beliefs, I say we let the fascist win! That’ll show ‘em!” We all get it. Biden is a stooge with beliefs few of us hold. But…we don’t have the luxury of time. Trump will jumpstart the most devastating part of climate change. No doubt. Because it’s not him, it’s the people he appoints, the companies that have those people in their pockets, and the distraction that trump causes while those corporate pigs devour everything and the news can’t tear themselves away from talking about what trump did or said or whatever to even cover it. We can’t afford that again.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 31 points 6 months ago

I will ALWAYS tell people they need to be strategic about voting. A vote is not an endorsement. It's not a pledge of deep personal conviction for a cause. Your vote is currency to be spent, and it should be spent in such a way that gives you the best possible rate of return. Refusing to vote, letting a Trump win, actions like that? Pretty poor return on investment. If you're in a place like California where you know the state is going Biden anyway and you think you can spend that vote in a way to protest and create more impact that way, that's reasonable and cool. If you're in Georgia, where every damn vote counts, and you do the same, you are being anything but.

But on climate, I'll defend Biden. The IRA is a good piece of legislation. It's hard to overstate how good it is. He somehow got the biggest climate policy in US and likely the entire world's history past an essentially-hostile congress (including 51+ anti-climate senators), and the law is almost entirely sound, reasonable, effective policy. It's even baked into its design to have a self-reinforcing constituency -- every year it survives, its repeal becomes less likely, just like with something like medicare or the ACA -- since it promotes and creates entire slow-moving industries to respond to its built-in incentives.

And sorry not sorry to piss off a lot of people, but climate is hierarchically the most important issue. If we do not address climate, all these other issues are irrelevant. We're talking about something with possibly-apocalyptic ramifications. Our civilization has the potential to exist a very long time. We have the potential to make a lot of changes, right a lot of wrongs, make the future way better. Climate change is very nearly the only threat that cannot take advantage of all that time, because the deadlines are fast approaching -- some already blown away.

I'll be voting for Biden in the next cycle. I think his entire foreign policy related to the middle east is asinine and evil. I think that if he does lose in November, it will be 100% his own fault for throwing in with the undeniably-genocidal regime of Benjamin Netanyahu. But I know that things will be worse for Gaza with Trump in the white house, because then what little resistance to the slaughter exists will go away; Trump loves a dead Arab, after all. And more important, I know things will be way worse for absolutely everyone if the hard-won progress we have had on climate since 2020 is all thrown in the bin. That may well be the point of no recovery for the entire world.

[–] Empathy@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

For a while now, I kept seeing posts about the Israel/Palestine issue, and almost every time, when I looked at their poster's history, they were full of negative news against Israel and the US (often with a negative comment from the OP about the US, even when the article isn't about to the US), and often contained lots of positive news, comments and remarks about China and Russia. I find this very suspicious, but I may be overly cynical.

I've almost only been seeing this on lemmy.ml and lemmy.ca. Perhaps I'm imagining it, but I also feel like I've seen these accounts promote not voting during the next election.

I started tagging these accounts a few months ago and I frequently see their posts on the front page.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I wonder. I mean, there are tons of stupid e-communists online that are usually middle class white 20-somethings that are taking their first foray into politics, think they know everything, and want to be more “left wing” than other people. Because political identity is so pronounced these days, and the desire (as seen in these same people labeling themselves by their self-diagnosed mental disorders in their bios) for “individualism” that fits into a distinct flavor of “individualism” that they’ve seen and want to use for their identity.

I know this, because I went through a period like this, but I went through it young. I got interested in politics probably too young. Like, in middle school. So by the time I reached high school/college, I was already reading crimethinc. books, and liking their particular brand of anarchism. So I got upset about things in the world not adhering to my worldview, got up in arms over a lot of stuff, and was probably really annoying to be around. By the time I grew into my 20s, I had gone brought that period, but I still grew up reading anarchist literature, adbusters, and eventually learned enough that I know I was probably an insufferable asshole. So now, I’m a 30-something anarchist. But I have a healthy dose of realism attached to my idealism. I know things don’t work the way I want them to work. If you read my comment history, I tend to spout a lot of the same type of stuff I used to. But it’s now been a lifetime of doing it, so I’ve learned to not do it at people. Which, of course, fits into the ideals of my deeply rooted political beliefs. So I think a good amount of the people on lemmy are the types of people like I used to be. It’s the more “terminally online” crowd, honestly. A lot of needlessly combative, overly self-righteous e-communists in that crowd.

But, then again, it is entirely possible that there are some disinformation artists mixed in there. I don’t know if lemmy is a big enough platform to target, honestly. But maybe it’s a sophisticated enough operation that they did end up putting a few people here to really target a specific left-leaning demographic. Would be pretty smart. But fuck both of those countries too. American “communists” defending them because they pretend to believe the same thing the communists in the US pretend to believe is so goddamn stupid. Makes me angry. Like they want to be against the US because the online circles they grew up in were left leaning or conspiracy and they learned to be angry at the US (which is entirely valid), but they just start swallowing the propaganda from the OTHER two superpowers that are just as guilty as the US. lol so dumb

[–] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

I fucking hate that you Americans influence my future

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't give a shit about oil and gas. It's just one drum he's forced to beat in order to carry out his self-aggrandizing power fantasies. This distinction is largely semantic and therefore doesn't change anything meaningful. However, it bothers me to see someone state that he cares about anything other than himself.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He most likely doesnt like wind power because it stopped his scottish golf course.

Edit: and because he's being told not to like it

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well he does have shit for brains. Most bullies do.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Nearly every bully i remember from back in school is a maga chud. Completely unsurprising

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why he hates wind. Being that he's nothing but a bag of hot air, maybe he fears the competition?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Nope, he's crazy. And someone told him a wind turbine conspiracy once and he runs with it.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago

With automatic transcription and how clean their audio is, there is no excuse for their not to be a full transcript on that page. ADA (and international equivalents) needs to be taken more seriously.