Oh for fuck's sake...
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I said the exact same thing. People are stupid.
Welp, looks like rabies is gonna have a huge comeback. I bet there's a huge overlap with antivaxx owners and unleashed pets too.
It's really sad too.
One interpretation of the cause of this problem is that vaccines are just too effective. No one has polio, not to mention even chicken pox.
A resurgence of rabies (or, god forbid, small pox) will clear that up real quick.
Then again, too much of this planet have been fed a steady diet of propaganda for most of their adult lives.
I literally saw lady letting fucking hellspawn of a child COVERED IN CHICKEN POX run around barefoot at Aldi a few weeks ago. I was so panicked I didn’t know what to do because I didn’t even see them until I was walking out so I just got out as fast as I could. My wife has never had chickenpox, and adult chickenpox can apparently be much more deadly, so it was definitely kind of terrifying.
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Cats too. I hate that people let cats roam, it's irresponsible and shitty to just let your pet out to do whatever it wants with everyone else's property. And now there are gonna be unvaccinated, rabid cats roaming and infecting it further.
Hey maybe the apocalypse is coming and this is the start of a zombie/aggressive rabies outbreak!
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As the disease progresses, the person may experience delirium, abnormal behavior, hallucinations, hydrophobia (fear of water), and insomnia. The acute period of disease typically ends after 2 to 10 days. Once clinical signs of rabies appear, the disease is nearly always fatal,
I believe the current survival rate is 29 people ever.
Only 5 of whom had no long-term damage.
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I feel sorry for the dogs that will suffer because of this nonsense.
At least they won't be autistic.
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The truly ironic thing is that the fact that vaccines worked so well at eliminating so many horrible diseases is why these chuckle fucks don't think that they need vaccines.
If they never saw a loved one killed or permanently fucked up from disease it must not exist or it's no a big deal. They are completely oblivious to the fact that vaccines are the reason why they never saw the suffering and death first hand.
The sentiment is different now though around becoming unwell with one of these diseases. They'll argue they caught it from vaccine shedding rather than naturally so it will just make them even more psychotic on the antivax soapbox.
Andrew Wakefield has a lot to answer for by rocket powering our regression in modern medicine.
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If you don't vaccinate your pet, you should be disallowed from owning it
And then they should be spayed or neutered, for responsible population control.
People who don't spay or neuter their pets piss me off. We don't need more dogs in the world. More dogs means more of them suffer through neglect and abuse. We need fewer dogs and better owners.
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I believe you mean to spay or neuter the animal, right? Not the pet, but the animal who prevented the pet from receiving the vaccine.
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...is almost always fatal for animals and people...
That's an understatement. I think there are only one or two documented cases ever where someone started to show symptoms of rabies and lived. If I recall correctly those who did live were given massive doses of the vaccine as the moment symptoms were noticed and were mentally incapacitated the rest of their lives.
Not quite, the vaccine is only part of it. The Milwaukee Protocol involves putting the patient into a coma and dropping their body temp so low that the virus can't spread (should note that low core temps are why marsupials like opossums are damn near immune) because once symptoms are showing it's actively turning your brain to mush. Between the virus already being present and the coma, brain damage is basically guaranteed despite survival.
Iirc only 29 people recorded as surviving. We should note that rabies has a written record going back to the start of writing. 29, in 4 millennia.
Rabies is scary as fuck y'all. You can get this shit from getting an organ transplant from someone who never knew they were infected after being bitten by a bat while camping last year.
https://youtu.be/kxBIJvNHZg4?si=2MjzGA2caKFIcBcM here's a video that's pretty disturbing if you're wanting to see what dying of rabies looks like. Spoilers, it's awful.
There's also a lot of disagreement on if the Milwaukee Protocol works or if it's something else entirely that we're just starting to figure out, and if it's worth the risks of things like lock-in syndrome if it won't do anything helpful for most people. Radiolab has a pretty interesting episode about it all
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I've recently encountered a cat rescue that rehomes their feral cats without giving them their rabies vaccines and NOT disclosing this. Ask me how I know and am 11 needles deep....they asked me to lie to public health and maintain that rabies isn't actually necessary and I wasn't really put at risk (?!)
It's fucking ludicrous and public health barely responded.
I am all for saving and rehoming ferals but holy hell VACCINATE AGAINST RABIES. The reason it's not as prevalent is BECAUSE OF THE VACCINES.
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Sometimes I really hate it here
On the plus side, some of those owners are bound to be bitten.
Sure, but with the much bigger minus that rabid dogs are also likely to bite a lot of perfectly innocent people, particularly kids, and even more particularly, kids who have crazy anti-vaxxer parents that might not get them a (human) rabies shot in time to save their life after a dog bite.
(note how many kids die of self-inflected gunshot wounds because their parents are too stupid to keep them safe from those)
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Updates on Rabies virus disease: is evolution toward “Zombie virus” a tangible threat?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7975959/
The irony of brain dead anti vaxxers becoming zombies
Any evolution or opportunity for it through any spread, especially in human adjacent vectors, is super bad news. A respiratory communicable rabies would be a potential "doomsday virus". We really don't want rabies picking up any new tricks.
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Do these people actually want to experience rabies, a disease with 99.9999999999% death rate, for themselves? Well, good luck for them, and natural selection will prevail.
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I pay $10 a year to license my dog. My dog has to be rabies vaccinated to get his license. He’s issued a tag with an ID#. The vet has to report his vaccine info. I get a certificate with a vaccine number too. I suppose I’m fortunate to live in an area with this as a requirement but I think it’s pretty easy to get around this too. I live in a metro area. I suppose in more rural areas, licensing and registration of dogs isn’t the norm.
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Meanwhile I was thrilled when my vet got the bunny vaccine, which had to be specially imported under special rules from Europe. And I was even more thrilled that a US made alternative just became available because it doesn't involve growing live virus in bun buns. Hell no we don't want RHD2, and IMHO you would have to be insane to withhold that vaccine from your bun buns.
Buns don't get rabies vaccines but I'm perfectly happy to vaccinate my cat against whatever the vet suggests.
As an autistic, a dog lover and a science guy... I feel so fucking conflicted.
Like, statistically speaking dogs are more likely to bite their owners, making rabies lethal for both the dog and the common sense challenged owners; I'm willing to let the humans die, however the dog is still innocent.
Anyway, I just wish every single conspiracy theorist anti vaccine person gets a very treatable and preventable (via vaccine) disease+infection; no sympathy from me.
I'm not. As much as I have no sympathy for shitty dog owners, chances are shitty dog owners are gonna keep from doing anything enough that someone innocent may get bit and unknowingly get rabies. That and shitty dog owners seem likely to simply lie about having given a rabies vaccine to their puppers. Literally I want anything and everything to help prevent innocent people (and other dogs) from getting rabies. It's so fucking awful. Even if that includes saving some people from leaving the gene pool that might not deserve to be there.
I never watched it and even I know about Old Yeller. This is just animal cruelty with how well known the disease is.
edit: Also isn't Rabies also a disease that targets the brain? Like the mother of all trades. Autism or Rabies /s (and yes I know one of those wouldn't even happen)
Rabies doesn't just "target" the brain. It fucking nukes that shit. Untreated rabies is one of the scariest diseases that exists. Once you're feeling symptoms, you are 99% fucked to a slow incredibly awful death.
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The article does not link the study. It can be found linked from the authors site (https://www.mattmotta.com/publications) here: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/qmbkv/
Honestly, it's more worth reading than the article. It's 7 pages, not including references and data.
I was wondering who the 2,200 people were. From the study:
Data
Data for this study are derived from a nationally representative online survey of N = 2,200 US adults, conducted between March 30 - April 10, 2023. We administered this study in partnership with YouGov...
...YouGov did this for our study by first pulling a simple random sample of responses from nationally representative US Census data, ...These individuals were then invited to participate in our study.
The firm then corrected for any remaining deviations ... on the basis of respondents’ racial identity, gender identity, age, educational attainment, and 2020 US Presidential vote choice.
Stage 1 Results: The Prevalence and Politicization of CVH
We begin our analysis by considering the prevalence of CVH among dog owners. As Table 3 demonstrates, a large minority of dog owners consider vaccines administered to dogs to be unsafe (37%), ineffective (22%), and/or unnecessary (30%). Correspondingly, we find that a slight majority of dog owners (53%) can be considered to be vaccine hesitant; i.e., because they endorse at least one of these three positions (see: Measures)
These people are more inbred then a pug
I can precisely follow the Stupid Logic and I hate it.
Know the common carrier of rabies in your area.
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