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CNN Max is likely to evolve over time. Among the features the company will try out are ways of alerting Max viewers to breaking news while they are watching something else on the service, whether it be an HBO series, a Turner Classic Movies selection or an old episode of Food Network’s “Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives.”

The enshittification of our world continues unabated.

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Both are now owned by Trump defender David Zaslav, the same guy who decided to rename HBO Max to Max. He has a history of reworking networks. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/david-zaslav-cnn-chris-licht-warner-discovery-1235634424/

Add HBO and CNN to the enshittification list.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

Yep. Zaslav is a real piece of shit. He was also behind cancelling Batgirl and Scoob before they were released and taking a bunch of animated shows off of Max but not making them available anywhere else.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

CNN has been shit for well over a decade now.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

CNN is not relevant to me or my generation. It is a rage bait channel for boomers. Nothing productive is ever discussed on there. It is a giant circle jerk about Trump’s latest outrage. They beat every topic to absolute death. I’m sorry, I have other things to do besides watch a bunch of mannequins find ways to fill 12 hours of air time from a 2 minute news clip.

If you start interrupting my escape from the daily news cycle with useless breaking news alerts, not only will I kill you, I’ll also cancel my subscription to Max.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, this is just a ridiculous idea that only a geriatric boomer could come up with. If there was breaking news we cared about, we'd get a notification on our phone. Unless we intentionally put our phone on silent because we wanted to enjoy something without interruption.

They're really going to push everyone to running their own home servers to watch pirated content again. For a few years they had a product where for a like $10/mo we could just watch whatever without ads, and it was legitimately better than piracy. They're just hell bent on ruining that.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

i wish they had a plan that only had hbo content, most of the time the other stuff just gets in the way and is annoying to scroll past. maybe they could call it “hbo max”

[–] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

HBO used to be my favorite streaming service, I loved it. Now it's full of reality tv crap. RIP.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Among all the other bullshit they pulled, the CEO bragged upon purchase of choking the service with cheap to produce reality show crap.

I had HBO in some form for decades, since I was a kid. They were the best and among the last prestige content creators. I dropped HBOs corpse last year over it. Fuck this late stage capitalism race to the bottom.

Also, if somehow all the shit they pulled upon acquisition wasn't enough to stop paying them 160 annually a year ago, this would have been.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want general grants to be given to small time production teams, even if some of the teams are teenagers. I always think of all the great stories we are missing, just because people were skipped over.

A good story can hold its own weight and doesn't need a huge FX budget or popular actors.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

"I want general grants to be given to small time production teams"

That's funny. We don't help the little guy here in the US. We funnel everything to the Fortune 1000 and pray for rain.

Anything less would make us dirty commies or something.

[–] Blankmann@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

That's why they preemptively dropped "HBO" from the old "HBO Max" moniker.

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I've had multiple issues with very recently released movies (like Crazy Rich Asians) not playing at all and only giving me pixelated nonsense or the aspect ratios being completely fucked up. Never happened on HBO Max. Only since the forced migration to the new app

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago

My nothing-a-month-plan looks better every day.

[–] tal@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Max wants to push alerts on viewers when there is breaking news on CNN.

I could maybe see there being a market for this if the default is not to show them, and there's an option to receive notification of developments on a specific topic. It's better than rabidly refreshing a particular topic that you are specially interested in.

Like, say you live in an area with an approaching hurricane, and you wanted to be alerted if there are any new developments on that particular topic.

However, I have a hard time believing that, in the general case, people want alerts popping up.

[–] hearthing@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The issue is that I can't tell CNN how severe of a breaking news story I want it to be to interrupt what I'm watching. To me, a story worthy of interrupting my show would be like the death of the president or nuclear armageddon or something. But to CNN, breaking news is like so and so celebrity said "Trump bad".

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago

Yep, not only is the idea super annoying, the thing that news networks think should be breaking news is completely out of step with what people actually want to know about.

It's always stuff like 'old celebrity died!', 'Trump did/said something idiotic!', 'we still haven't found MH370!', 'some bullshit about the UK royal family!'.

[–] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

True, but not as helpful for the Turner Classic Movies side of the business. A lot of old films are not available via piracy sites because there isn't much interest in them outside of a niche film buff market. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing I'm not going to see too many Dead End Kids or Boston Blackie movies on a torrent site, but I might on TCM. And now they're going to interrupt that with bullshit.

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just did a quick search and there seems to be some material from both in archive.org, even youtube and theres some DEK movies in yts too. In case you are interested.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were just examples off the top of my head. There might be options for some of those, but I doubt that TCM's entire library is available for pirate or Internet Archive download.

[–] young_broccoli@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, I didnt mean to say that as if you were wrong. You probably are right, tbh.
Still, theres more obscure shit on the internets than people think there is; so I thought I share it.

Piracy is still a viable alternative to oppressive corporations even when you are into old/obscure stuff and, imo, even if the entirety of TCMs catalogue isnt available... yet.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, I didn't think that's how you were saying it. I think this has been a good discussion.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It depends on how deep you wish to go down the hole.

For me, and especially now that Netflix is ending their DVD service, if I can’t find something old via torrent, I’ll find it on DVD on Amazon, used for as cheap as possible. Then, rip it, and sell it back on Amazon used. Odds are, whoever is buying it from me is doing the same thing I just did.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not quite the same level of convenience as having it available to stream right away though.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, not immediately, but once you’ve got your collection, you’re pretty much set. You can watch whatever you want, whenever, wherever.

The only streaming service I have these days is Max and that’s only because it’s part of my cellphone plan and I’m grandfathered into that plan as well.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What you don't get to do, which you could do back when TV was just TV and you happened to catch it on, or you could do when it is added to a streaming service, is discover something you didn't know existed.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That’s fair. I’ve discovered some neat old films on Max by just browsing around.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are some decent discovery services you can use with your torrent software.

I use Ombi which my plex users can log into with their Plex id, discover new/old/etc content and then send an automated request to my Radarr/Sonarr software.

Each users permissions can be configured as to the quality/language/etc of the content as well as which types they can request to automatically download and which require my approval first

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But how likely are they to have obscure movies from the 1930s? That was what makes TCM such a gem.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah just as in manually downloading them you're gonna need a decent private tracker or two to reliably find some more obscure stuff like that

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a reminder, CNN betrayed Americans way back in the early 1990s by selling the first Bush War, and hasn't gotten better since.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago

Was there mainstream media that didn't try to sell the war? You had to go to stuff like Democracy Now to hear any kind of critical voices.

[–] Md1501@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

If I get a notification that interrupts what I am watching on HBO Max I will never use it again

[–] CharlesReed@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

My question is, what exactly do they consider 'breaking news'? These days every news story starts off with 'breaking news'. If they want to interrupt me so bad, I'll find whatever I want to watch elsewhere.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Motherfuckers, I don’t even watch CNN. What the fuck is going on today? Sony raising PS plus prices to ridiculous levels and now this. Fuck CNN. Fuck MAX!

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I just looked up PS Plus prices. Wth. Why does everything have to go up in price? The same service costs $20 more? I used to always get the codes on sale and now that’s harder to get so I was already thinking twice about renewing. Now with the price increase, I might as well just not renew it.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

What the fuck is going on today?

Interest rates. Loans just got a lot more expensive so big companies are all scrambling to shake down their customers for every penny they can get so they can get more debt off their books.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

"raising PS plus prices to ridiculous levels" Just change to a different company's service, .... Oh, wait.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I hadn’t seen the PS+ increase before this and just now looked it up.

Like…seriously?? $80 for the base tier? And $160 for the top one?

There’s nothing extra being provided. The only reason I’ve bothered to keep it is for the 2 games each month since I don’t really online play that much anymore.

[–] Haha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Easiest answer is to be your own consumer

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Every time I make a decision the company ruins it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

RSS feeds exist already.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, I sure as shit won't be subscribing.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago

The minute I see anything pop up while watching my Bar Rescue I will be cancelling my subscription

[–] greendakota99@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This bullshit is going to interrupt me during my 14th rewatch of Entourage?

[–] easydnesto@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Something that perhaps I missed in the article is if CNN Max will be a new app or will the use the existing Max app? If it’s the latter then I hope we can disable it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's the latter.

[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Great, a CNN "Breaking News" update interrupting your movie or show every time Trump pinches off a fresh new loaf on Pravda Social; just what everyone wants!