this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2023
195 points (98.5% liked)

Technology

60148 readers
3372 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

A high-speed rail line in California is chugging along towards 2030 debut::The state's High-Speed Rail Authority will soon begin accepting proposals from electric train manufacturers ahead of a proposed 2030 debut.

top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Once selected and constructed, the high-speed trains would top out at 242 mph while traversing a 171-mile starter segment connecting Central Valley’s Bakersfield and Merced

Oh wow! In only 6.5 years, I’ll be able to get from 2/3 of the way to San Francisco to 3/4 of the way to Los Angeles very efficiently!

I swear we’re going to be litigated into irrelevance with all this NIMBY idiocy.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do the easiest part first to prove it can be done successfully. It's the pilot basically.

[–] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But without main population centres is it going to be done successfully? Imo they should have started with one of the ends, so that at least there is a big trip destination.

Too late for that now and I really hope it works out and we get a good example for north american high speed rail projects to point to despite everything.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would be waiting forever if they wanted to break ground in downtown la or sf first.

You can’t will car lobbies and nimbys to action, you have to coerce the general public and the state, and this incomplete rail will be the coercion.

Honestly it’s a brilliant strategy for a shitty situation. After this phase, if they somehow don’t get permission to complete the line, they would never have gotten rail built between the cities anyway.

[–] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I just hope it works so that people can shut up with the high speed rail only works in other places garbage. Just tell them to go visit california and see how good it is... Only works if they finish it so I hope they do.

[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh wow! In only 6.5 years

Then again look it this way... Once the lining has been built it will serve California for centuries, just as the original built rail corridors have. The rail tech might change, but the cleared out suitably shallow contoured corridor remains. For centuries.

I hope you’re right, but having grown up in California, and being very familiar with NIMBY shit there as well as in the northeast… I don’t think you are.

[–] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The central valley eating good for once

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I'm on it.

[–] catch22@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Right? This has been rehashed so many times over the years. I've lost count.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really hope they connect to SF or LA soon after. That train is going to be empty without one of those two cities.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? It doesn’t go to LA or SF? What is the freaking point? All this will do is encourage more ticky tacky townhomes in the middle of nowhere along Highway 5.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago

It will, but the initial operating segment won't.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But wait, Elon has a better idea …

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"okay but what if single-occupancy trains where every possible destination has its own train yard that you can pay to leave your single occupancy train in? They would leave on your schedule and go where you're going."

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds brilliant. I bet we can find some fee-waived trainyards in popular areas too.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

do you guys validate berth and steerage?