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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Drinking "raw milk" puts everyone at risk and should be illegal.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's mostly illegal to sell it. I think just for processing/cooking (cheesemaking) is it legally sold for. But idiots have no qualms about breaking the law by lying.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not in Oklahoma they fought hard to make it legal here. Remember the fight over it years ago.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It supposedly tastes much better. I'm sure there's also a few conspiracy nuts who think pasteurization makes you weaker for the jewish takeover or something.

It's also a personal liberty issue. People don't like being told they can't do something, and while I agree with bans on consumption of raw milk, we should critically analyze any law where the government tells private citizens what to do or not do. Especially when there isn't clear harm being done to another person.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Especially when there isn’t clear harm being done to another person.

We have lots of laws to protect people from themselves and from the lies of corporations and such. Seatbelt and helmet laws are the most obvious. We can't, as a society, expect people to be an expert on every subject. So people make laws to enforce certain actions to protect people from ignorance and misinformation. Hopefully these laws get passed after a lot of scientific evidence shows they are necessary and not political bigotry like cannabis bans and such.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

That's actually exactly my point. We should carefully examine whether the infringement is worth the benefit before blindly letting the government do whatever.

In the case of seatbelt laws, it is worth it because people are really bad at understanding inertia, and wearing a seatbelt isn't a burden to anyone. In the case of raw milk, it's worth it because tuberculosis is fucking horrifying and very contagious.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's mostly legal. It's legal to sell raw milk in 29 states, though most have some regulation around it.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/raw-milk-legal-states

[–] runeko@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Illegal in Wisconsin: the dairy state. Perhaps they know something we all should know. Perhaps we should follow suit.

[–] Sewer_King@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Where's Upton Sinclair when you need him?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They’re are essentially trying to catch the disease and spread it via misunderstood science. Their stupidity puts us all at risk. It’s the same reason as any other law - stupidity and ignorance is not an excuse to fuck over the rest of us.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pasteurization kills viruses. So no. Not really.

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right. Raw milk is not pasteurized. Thats the whole point - they are drinking milk that has the live virus on purpose. Viruses can then spread from person to person. So while I wont drink unpasteurized milk, those who do will still put the rest of us at risk.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does the article not explain this?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe make it legal only if consumed directly from the teat?

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 years ago

I'm petty sure a lump of moldy cheese has better critical thinking skills than these nuggets

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn’t we just confirm the first animal-to-human transmission of H5N1?

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's happened a handful of times around the world, passing from livestock to human. It hasn't yet ever passed from human to human, fortunately, but contact with infected livestock (or, potentially, drinking infected milk) is how a virus might evolve to better infect humans.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Handful of cases only in the US. Globally there were around 900 cases to date (starting 2003).

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sounds like natural selection

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 57 points 2 years ago

If only this would remain within the idiot population. The increased risk of them getting infected and allowing the virus to mutate in a way that makes it more virulent/transmissible in humans is bad for everyone.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

It may be but we will all pay the price. It's jumped from Avians to Mammals (cows) it probably has jumped to cats, and in one case may have jumped to humans already.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

The folks behind The Great Barrington Declaration who believed in herd immunity for COVID now get to reap what they sow.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Self correcting problem until they spread it.