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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone actually surprised? It was clear from the get go that this was where these bots were headed...

[–] intelati@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know it's the correct way to word it, but this sounds like rifles on robotic arms mounted on real dogs

[–] SandLight@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh thank God, I misunderstood and was shocked by the barbarism.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some style guides are really dumb and consider "a b-c d" to be "(a b)-(c d)", as if a hyphen is less tightly binding than a space

Truly a weapon to surpass metal gear!

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, yeah. I Did A Thing did a video on exactly this a year or so back. His setup was a complete shitshow as they had to change robo-dogs at the last second (because Michael Reeves and OfflineTV didn't want to get sued by Boston Dynamics) but the principle was sound.

But also? You are never going to replace a well trained soldier with this. Even with a proper gimbal mount, you aren't doing rapid precise shots.

But also... you don't need to. The advantage to this is to have a relatively low cost platform to handle suppressive fire or fire an anti-tank shot or whatever. Something where you would otherwise be risking a human being.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Before they made the knife missile, I expected someone to mount the robotic sniper array on a Predator.

But robot murder dogs are just another drone if they're controlled by an operatons team.

We cross the crazy sci-fi line when they're able to autonomously select and attack targets based on an algo.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Remember when they were surprised that drone operators also got ptsd?

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean... that is another I Did A Thing video (the knife missile is Backyard/Backdoor Scientist). Well, I Did A Thing, Michael Reeves, random ass kids, etc.

Gun+Computer Vision = Autonomous Sentry Turret. Reeves and Aleks made things "harder" by trying to specifically identify faces. But it doesn't take much to realize that shooting at anything identified as a human approaching on an active battlefield is a LOT easier. And will likely be necessary as more and more "C4 duct taped to a drone" attacks are used against airfields and the like.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The Drones used today already using AI/algos in order to finish their mission even if for example the connection to the pilot is lost.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 3 points 1 year ago

Israel is already assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists with autonomous/remote-controlled gun platforms. The last one I've heard of apparently was able to use facial recognition and shoot the scientist in his car sparing the other passengers.

Next to that, putting the platform on a Spot seems almost trivial. Maybe one day they'll be able to airdrop a bot, have it walk kilometers across a forest, and place itself in a position to snipe someone marked for death by one State or another.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, yeah. That was the goal of creating all of these.

Hell, Boston Dynamics was originally funded heavily by DARPA. BigDog, AlphaDog, LittleDog, and LS3 were all funded by DARPA and designed for military use.

This is old anyway. They were strapping guns to the ghost robotics dogs as far back as 2021. https://www.popsci.com/technology/ghost-robotics-robot-dog-gun-lethal/

[–] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone still remembers when they said they would never use dog robots for weapon/war purposes? I do. Things always age like milk and it's unsurprising.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Boston Dynamics said that, and they have stuck to that commitment. IIRC it's even in the contract when you buy a robot from them that you will not equip it with a weapon.

This article is about Ghost Robotics, which has never made such a commitment. They are known to supply gun-equipped robots to governments at all levels.

[–] overkill0485@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Metalhed - Black Mirror

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recently visited the Boston Museum of Science where they have one of the Boston Dynamics robodogs on display, and they did a live demo with q&a. All I could think of the whole time was that one black mirror episode...

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

the tracking darts that embed in your body are nice and good

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, how soon is it until they cram ChatGPT, Tensorflow, and a few others into this thing and actually make a Terminator?

Also, let me know if anyone sees any naked dudes crawl out of some lightning balls.

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Concidering we already have robotic birds dropping explosive on enemies in curren warfare, this really isn't that big of a deal

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Not to mention millions or even billions of robotic drones that monitor us all.

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Automation is the big deal. Drones have cameras so humans can make a (hopefully) informed disision to strike or not. When (read; now) the drone doesn't need a camera because it can make the call without a human in the loop, we have removed a vital bottleneck.

The only thing that stopped WWI from being total war is that when we wipped out an entire generation, we needed time to grow more troops. If autonomous weapons being manufactured autonomously by autonomously constructed factories... whoever controled the drones could of conquered the world.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

No, that assumes that resources and energy are unlimited. This is the main problem with any "grey goo" scenario.

And it wasn't people being killed that stopped WW2. People are killed in every war. The defensive weaponry was more powerful than the offensive weaponry. Machine guns were only used on defense because they were heavy. Also, artillery was not mechanized so it was hard to move everything forward quickly.

[–] decadentrebel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We're now a step closer to making dogs with BBs in their mouths and when they bark they shoot BBs at you.

[–] HarrySlaughter@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who's played The Division knows the Black Tusks did this years ago

[–] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear you can distract it by throwing some batteries at it.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Who's a good boy?

[–] DarkLogic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This was inevitable. I was imagining Ukrainians would love to have a tool like this to remotely walk up and clear trenches.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

If I may quote our future robotic overlord.

Neet.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do you want horizon zero dawn? Because that's how you get horizon zero dawn

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're getting it, the only question is do you want dinosaurs or dogs?

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

Only if they start self-replicating.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine a mobile gun controlled by ChatGPT 3.5. 😐

I’m waiting for them to unleash Metal Gear

Absolutely fantastic stuff here.

[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Atlas's brothers are in the making. The are searching for a proper name ... any suggestions?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

If I were a dog, or the creator of a dog, I would say:

This beast is such an insult!

Totally stiff in the spine, stamping worse than a cow on dope, and that stiff body must stay horizontally at all times.

What a gross misconstruction.