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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Guardian doesn't really understand some American things. Losing this case will hurt Trump, because his brand is getting away with everything.

Remember when Trump lost the election and the January 6th insurrection was crushed? Remember how quiet the news was? No one cared to interview Trump anymore because he was a loser. It was great.

Get ready for him to try and spin it, but it's not really going to work. The Guardian is staffed by British people, not Americans. They don't pay as much attention to how Americans think. Just wait for the verdict.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Except Trump and his sycophants have convinced their base that the trial is illegitimate and meant just to persecute him. Anyone who believes that (and there are a lot who do) will only want to vote for him more.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. If you think that, you don't understand Trump's appeal. People who value hierarchy like him because he pretends to be on top. His brand isn't a "successful business person", it's just "guy who gets away with everything". Anything that punishes him hurts that brand.

He's not "oppressed guy". That brand only works for Democrats. Republicans want to vote for winners, not complainers. That's why all the other candidates sucked up to Trump after he won the nomination.

Just being on trial hurts Trump's brand because he obviously can't control his day when he's in court. A conviction on multiple felonies will hurt even more.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And you are looking at Trump's appeal backwards. Trump supporters do not look at facts then decide whether or not to love him, Trump supporters love him unconditionally then twist and invent "facts" to validate their position. Trump has already been found guilty of defamation against Jean Carroll twice and it hasn't hurt him a bit.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Losing a civil trial doesn't hurt Trump unless he has to sell some buildings. He doesn't have the cash but his Truth Social grift may pay for it. That's why few supporters cared about it. It doesn't affect him like losing the election or being sentenced to house arrest (likely scenario).

Don't you remember how even Fox News didn't want him on the show after he was booted out of the White House? Crazy people cared more about Q-Anon than Trump and his supporters were dejected.

Trump supporters 100% care about facts, they just don't admit it to you. They care if they win and are pissed if they don't. It's just like sports fans who want to win and complain about refs if they lose. They are still upset at the team for losing even if they complain about the refs.