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On Reddit, my karma was always weighted more on the question side than on the comment side. I felt bad for not being a valuable contributor to people's lives rather than being selfish and always asking things for myself. Lemmy has gotten rid of that point system so now I feel like I can feel free to ask as many questions as I need without having to balance my karma. Also, I have noticed that I participate so much more on this platform than I ever did on Reddit.

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[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's surprising how much just keeping track can mess with behavior, eh?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it meme

(edit: I don't know why it wasn't loading, have now uploaded directly to lemmy)

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 3 points 2 years ago

10/10 futurama reference

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I suppose so.

[–] w00tabaga@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It’s the main reason why Reddit was a giant circle jerk. I like here that you can upvote and downvote things but it’s not connected to your account at all. Just connected to the comment or post, as it should be.

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

My problem is that I'm not a poster.

I just don't think of things and then think "oh, I should share this with the world". If I have a question, I tend to enjoy the process of finding the answer unless it's game related, so thinking of crowd sourcing an answer rarely occurs to me.

But! While I'm less likely to run across things on lemmy that trigger my gush button because my interests are niche-ish, I tend to be willing to put in effort into such things.

Same with things that trigger my curiosity; if I don't have info that's useful, and I want that info, chances are I'll come back and share what I find and put effort into it.

Lemmy hasn't caught up with the population sizes of my niche interests enough for my old drive to help or discover to get triggered often though. It will, I'm sure, but it'll take time now that a solid user base has formed that will spread awareness of the platform organically.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lemmy has gotten rid of that point system so now I feel like I can feel free to ask as many questions as I need without having to balance my karma.

Oh we can totally still see that:

Favrion's Karma

If anything it's even weirder because I can only see your karma from the perspective of the communities we have in common. So even if you do comment a lot on some other community I'm not part of, you're very post/question heavy from my perspective.

That aside, think of it this way: nobody can comment if there's nothing to comment on, and nobody's gonna ask questions or post things if there's nobody to answer them. Even lurkers that just vote are important for this kind of ecosystem.

I'm just not a big poster, I rarely have questions, I rarely get so wow'd at content that I want to share it with other people. Well I wouldn't have any content to look at if it wasn't for all those people that actual post things, and I wouldn't have questions to answer or comments to share if there wasn't anyone to post content.

The number exists, and it doesn't matter.

Did it even really matter on Reddit? I've always thought that post karma was a lot more powerful and much easier to get than comment karma. One good post on Reddit and your post karma explodes, that's much rarer on comments, you just need lots of comments with like 5 upvotes each to very slowly build up that karma.

Mine for comparison:

My Lemmy Karma

Boy am I sparking some interesting conversations on there huh

[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not similar between apps, either, even with the same account. If you're on Android, you can use Voyager and Connect and it'll show you different numbers. Another thing is that it fluctuates. I see my "karma" on Voyager is around 14 points now, whereas I made a ~~post~~ comment quite recently where I also checked and I had around 40.

So as a karma system, it's unreliable enough imho that it's not gonna (or shouldn't) affect users as much as reddit's karma system. It's also another reason why I decided not to switch to kbin.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Asking questions is valuable to an online community though. People need to ask questions so that others can answer, and plenty of them (often myself included) won't post questions they have and will just search around hoping someone else already did.

[–] chronically_crazy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I've really enjoyed the questions asked here, and I've found the communities feedback to be invaluable.

And not all of those questions have been asked by me.

[–] subnuggurat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In your own personal opinion, what's the motivation for keeping an eye on karma? How would the experience change if you didn't have the possibility of racking up points/karma at all?

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My sense of community involvement depended on my karma count. I didn't want to be perceived as a person consistently asking for answers rather than contributing them. I guess without karma that preoccupation goes away.

[–] Zaktor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Post karma and comment karma don't map to questions and answers though. Maybe in some very specific subs posting=questions, but most post karma is posting links and memes.

[–] subnuggurat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks for replying. I personally enjoy it more without the personal ranking system. I think it stopped a lot of people from contributing for fear of public (and evident) disapproval while giving some people motivation to flood the site with low quality content just for the points. I still like the up/downvotes though but as a metric for the content, not the user.

[–] starman@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

As you can see in the docs there is comment_score and post_score attached to every user. But you can always decide to not care about it, and I strongly recommend that

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is tracked btw its just that your instance of Lemmy is deciding not to display it. You have 1512 reputation.

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How do I make that public?

[–] speck@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do you need to make it public?

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So people can tell that I'm legit.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Switch to an instance that displays it, like kbin. I don't think you can on lemmy.

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I had hundreds of thousands of karma on Reddit. I keep forgetting that’s here too. I stopped caring a while ago anyhow.

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