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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/10230630

Climate Central vice-president for science Andrew Pershing said the figures illustrated the "huge burden" the burning of fossil fuels imposed on people around the world

"Australia didn't have a particularly interesting summer this year, but in Africa it's just day after day after day of climate change just beating down on that continent."

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I would've thought that near all of Australia burning in 2019 would've been a big enough wake up call, but here we are, five years later, and now everything is on fire.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I gave up hope a while ago that we'll do anything significant in time for it to matter. I used to be pretty optimistic but this is the topic that changed that. I'm not exactly a doomer but I'm definitely much more jaded and cynical than I used to be.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Fucking same man.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Nothing will wake us up - move us to make large scale changes - while greed and selfishness are a thing.

I am sure we won't get out of this.

Edit: just read this and felt it fits here. Cost of going green sparks backlash from Europe's voters

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 months ago

I am sure we won't get out of this.

You're in good company with that line of thinking

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329820-200-understand-faulty-thinking-to-tackle-climate-change/

DANIEL KAHNEMAN is not hopeful. “I am very sorry,” he told me, “but I am deeply pessimistic. I really see no path to success on climate change.”

Kahneman’s views are widely shared by cognitive psychologists. As Daniel Gilbert of Harvard University says: “A psychologist could barely dream up a better scenario for paralysis.”

Thay said, I keep my emisisons low, vote green, but plan for the worst while hoping for the best.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

LoL yeah. People getting upset because has prices are inconvenient.

Wait till they see what's around the corner with this ecological disaster. Gas prices will be the least of their worry.

Can't grow crops when the whole soil is too dry and the air is too hot to grow anything. Or when there's flash floods all the time. Or extreme weather conditions and your home has been destroyed.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people wrongly though that.

Mostly the rhetoric I heard in personal conversations was conservative talking points about blaming The Greens for not allowing enough back burning and blame The Greens for not allowing nuclear.

Insee some if the same.stuoid nonses spouted in the Canadian less by conservative polticans there.

The Greens have never been in power at the state or federal level and can't draft legislation. The conservative LNP have been in power literally for decades and drafted all the legislation but here we are.

I Vote Green, me and the another 128 Australians.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

There are dozens of us! Dozens!!!

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A nice little chart of surface temperatures over the decades.

And by nice I mean terrible, depressing, and horrifying.

It's a lot for sure.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago