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Goodreads is perhaps the best example of enshittification imo. It's only good now as a way to track your reading lists.

I tried bookwyrm today and it feels quite polished already, like giving you a guided tour of it's features. Hopefully it takes off as well similar to mastodon and lemmy.

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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I like BoomWyrm, but they are so many duplicate books because there are so many different published versions of a book. I think these need to be combined somehow. If people really want to choose the cover of the exact book they read maybe you could be able to choose your cover.

[–] floppy@rabbitea.rs 26 points 1 year ago

It has this already - see editions under the book. Some books have been added incorrectly as new books though.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Storygraph has this too, but they helpfully provide an "editions" button on each book and you can then select the exact one that you're reading.

Could be a solution for this app too.

[–] zinklog@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's true, duplicate copies of the same book is perhaps the main pain on bookwyrm right now. On the other hand it also feels like a problem that devs must be aware of and are actively trying to figure out a solution for.

[–] itsmistermoon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

In Whakoom, a spanish website to keep track of your comics collection, they have this functionality to add different editions to the same book, so they are linked and you can search other editions when you’re seeing the book details.

[–] itsmistermoon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

In Whakoom, a spanish website to keep track of your comics collection, they have this functionality to add different editions to the same book, so they are linked and you can search other editions when you’re seeing the book details.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

awaiting discogs for books

Yeah, and so much isn't recognized when importing your Goodreads books. Didn't like it for that reason.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooh, I love a good book app.

I've been using Storygraph more than GoodReads lately, but I'll have to check this out too.

[–] rephlekt2718@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yup, I’m a StoryGraph user as well, does everything I’d need a book app to do

[–] 4cheese@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've only ever used Goodreads to track books I've read. What was good about it in the past?

[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

discussion and recommendations.

but now it's mostly shit, like anything that is remotely social media. crazy power users and bad faith actors are all over the place.

I stopped using it a few years ago because people who harass me based on my reviews, esp if it was a critical review of a popular book.

[–] AfterthoughtC@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I read that in 2012 a bunch of authors (names included Anne Rice, Kiera Cass and Carroll Bryant) made this website called Stop the Goodreads Bullies, a harassment site disguised as an anti-bullying campaign. Goodreads failure to protect its users/ bowing down to them by changing its policy to say that reviews about author's behaviour was off-topic caused people to migrate to booklikes. Were you part of that migration?

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about this too. I thought that's what Goodreads was for, tracking your books.

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

I also use it for:

  1. check ratings and reviews.
  2. jump from a book to a series
  3. check if/how book is translated to another language
  4. rarely check book lists

And, TBH. I do not see benefits of making booksread federated. But, probably, I miss something important.

[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Never liked Goodreads. I always got much better results on LibraryThing.

[–] strix@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really like it and I'm already using it to track my books. There are two things I don't understand yet: how can I get recommendations, or books that are similar to other books? And what is a good way to find others to follow who have a similar taste in books?

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't really know what the dev's roadmap is, but I do think that reccomendations shouldn't even be a part of the instance beyond recommendations from your "community" or people who you follow. I think it should be a seperate service/website that imports your goodreads/bookwyrm data and algorithms it while serving ads(meaning their revenue will come from publishers/authors). It can then push recommendations over to your bookwyrm home instance with activitypub. Otherwise each instance will need the data from every other instance just to give you recommendations based on what other people like you enjoyed. It also allows the service to be easily replaced once it starts to go to shit, since there's not a single "this is the recommendation engine".

[–] strix@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that would make sense. Guess in the meantime I just have to keep searching for people with similar taste to follow.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm curious, anybody working on a discogs alternative?

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wouldn't it make more sense to make a more generic federated list site that could be used for any category of things you wanted?

[–] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Books, music, movies and so on all have big differences in how they're best presented, what sort of information they should have, how social features are best integrated. I don't really see a monolithic site that tries to do all of that being better than separate federated sites that can cater to their own unique focus.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mean to make a single website do all of those things. I mean in the sense of making a federated website protocol that allows you to start an instance for whatever kind of thing you want. Maybe it wouldn't work, but it would save a lot of time on re-inventing the wheel every time you wanted a new type of tracking site.

That makes more sense. Still, I think the point stands; tracking different things is different enough that trying to fit all of them into the same framework wouldn't be ideal. Off the top of my head, one example is how a 'watched'/'read' list is needed for books and movies, but a 'listened to' list wouldn't make a lot of sense for music; while on the other hand an 'owned' list is important for music, but not as relevant for books and movies. There's plenty that would make sense to federate of course, like reviews, but if it was me making this I would be much more inclined to have separate backends with certain parts having ActivityPub integration.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a list of fediverse apps available, not yet for projects in start up. (Or I haven't found it yet)

[–] nix@merv.news 3 points 1 year ago

Surprised theirs no manga dedicated instance

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to import my books from Goodreads but it gives me a '413 Request Entity Too Large' error message. I could import them to Storygraph a couple of weeks ago with no problem though. Does anyone know a way?

[–] meanmon13@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is this a humble brag for how many books you've read?

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

LOL sounds like it

[–] Teodomo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I'm genuinely asking. Having read more books doesn't make you better in any way, it just means you sank more time into them. But I guess I understand how some would see my comment like that, since there's a lot of snobs and elitism among readers (at least, among the vocal ones)

[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Request entity too large does mean that the data you sent is too big for the server to handle.

I don't know if you could split in half your book list and import it in two parts, otherwise there is nothing you can do, except post an issue to their issues tracker, probably github.

[–] LoboAureo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there something like that but for series and films? A Foss alternative to justwarch or tv show tracker?

[–] ComptitiveSubset@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wow that’s a great idea

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