I just find this to be very ironic.
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Indeed, especially coming from the state with the widest highway in the world ☹️
From what I've seen of Texas during my visits I have to ask: WTF kind of alternatives are there? Houston is 80% ramps and intersections, and walking practically anywhere is impossible due to the roads effectively dividing up the city.
No matter where you're going in Houston, you're going to need a car. It's among the cities least suitable for moving around without a car I've ever been to.
Texas simply put is built for cars. Some new areas are more walkable and bikeable but you are right, it's not convenient or safe to bike or walk a lot. And cars are still assholes to bikers.
Texas, and America, need a culture change of we want to fix transit.
Texas simply put is built for cars.
No, even Texas was built for people and then bulldozed for cars.
Compare downtown Houston circa 1920...
...to downtown Houston circa 1980:
Wow that is horrible
Fair point, do you know if there is any truth to the idea that the auto manufacturers and the oil Libby "conspired" to make out cities more car friendly and less walkable?
Well, the GM Streetcar Conspiracy was real.
Aside from that, though, I don't think it really matters whether other conspiracies existed or not. The same outcome of car-dependency and suburban sprawl was a fait accompli back then because of:
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The prevailing attitudes of Modernist urban planners -- look at the Garden City Movement, Le Corbusier's Ville Radieuse, Frank Lloyd Wright's Broadacre City, etc.
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The Federal Housing Authority (created in 1934) giving those Modernist ideas the force of law, via things like the 1938 technical bulletin Planning Profitable Neighborhoods (pages 12 & 18) directing developers to prefer suburban strip malls to traditional "main street" commercial development, the 1936 Planning Neighborhoods for Small Houses directing developers to ditch the street grid in favor of insular subdivisions connected only via arterial roads, and, infamously, the Underwriting Manual that penalized traditional development via redlining,
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The prevailing attitude of the public, who were (a) justifiably fed up with the squalor of early-20th-century cities, (b) thoroughly enthralled by the mid-century "American Dream" (read: single-family house with a white picket fence etc.) and car-culture ('freedom of the open road', drive-ins, cars as status symbols, etc. -- helped along by things like GM's Futurama, of course), and last but not least, (c) racist AF and engaging in White Flight.
The Suburban Experiment was inevitable because of the above factors, regardless of any collusion between GM and Standard Oil. Besides, since their interests were aligned anyway, if they did collude they probably just agreed to do the same things they already were going to do to begin with.
(By the way: I could've sworn I read or heard something somewhere about Frank Lloyd Wright himself being involved with the establishment of the FHA and maybe even having a hand in writing some of the publications I cited, but for the life of me I can't find the reference anymore. Anybody else know anything about it?)
Final edit, since the filter was fixed, here's the correct URL:
https://theappendix.net/issues/2013/10/local-history-feet-first
An interesting article on the history of how Houston became like that, by a historian trying to walk through it:
Edit: I dunno why, but part of the URL keeps getting removed? Some sort of filter?
https://removedendix.net/issues/2013/10/local-history-feet-first
The website is "the appendix dot net", but "the app" part of the URL shows up as removed when I post it, never seen this
Edit, test: here I am trying not write "the app" without a space: "removed" 😂
Maybe the new slur filter was being used by your admins and they cocked it up? I can't imagine why they'd want to censor "theapp"
Do you think it's an instance level thing? I want to post somewhere and ask. I never gave much thought to what instance I am on, I just kinda looked for a big one when I first learned about Lemmy
If it's the slur filter, then it's an instance level thing yes. It's not censored on my end, and it's on lemmy.world, so I assume this is maybe a bad regex.
PS.: I posted on lemmy.world support community asking about it: https://lemmy.world/post/16355532
good times, theapp!
As in you can see my URL normally? Thanks for the info, I will post somewhere to ask about
I actually can't see your URL, because it's censored before being federated. However I can see me typing "theapp" on my end. However if I visit your instance it's shown as removed
Dfw is just as bad
I heard they actually did some work on the Mixmaster …
In related news, MAGA is asking all Texans to double their "rolling coal" output.
"That's some liberal commie bullshit" - some Texan probably
“Texas asks people to avoid Texas”.
Texas literally means "roof tiles". That's cuz you can probably get roof tiles by cooking Texan soil. So I'm sure there were fires there that go back to the beginning of civilization in the Americas. But now we finally found the limit.