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Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito is heard questioning whether compromise between the left and right is possible in a conversation posted on social media Monday. The conservative justice is also heard agreeing with a woman who says the United States should return “to a place of godliness.”

The audio was posted on X by liberal filmmaker Lauren Windsor. She said it was recorded at the Supreme Court Historical Society’s annual dinner last week.

“One side or the other is going to win,” Alito said. “There can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully, but it’s difficult, you know, because there are differences on fundamental things that really can’t be compromised.”

Windsor then told Alito: “I think that the solution really is like winning the moral argument. Like, people in this country who believe in God have got to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a place of godliness.”

“I agree with you,” Alito responded.

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[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 107 points 2 years ago
[–] halfwaythere@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Again freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion. And these nut jobs. The big difference is that sane people are willing to allow these people to believe what they want but they (religious extremists) are intolerant of others thinking differently from them.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Of course compromise is impossible when you're a hardliner who refuses to engage in good faith.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In the same way that I think the quickest way for stricter gun control laws to be passed is for minorities to start open carrying firearms en-masse, I think the best way to educate Christian nationalists on the importance of the separation of church and state is for everyone to start attending their local mosque and preaching the virtues of Islam when discussing politics. Conservatives are incapable of understanding the negatives of any policy position until they experience them personally. Force them to experience what it's like to be a religious minority and they will change their tune very quickly.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't use Islam, use the Satanic Temple. It's entire purpose is to reinforce the separation of church and state in political situations. It's a non-theist organization, and they do a lot of good work.

https://thesatanictemple.com/

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago
[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I think that's too far out in left field from these people's perspective for it to be as effective as Islam would be. They need to think they're being outcompeted by a legitimate religion. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but I think enough people would see that as an intentionally contrarian organization and not as a competing religious ideology. I don't think that would evoke the genuine fear of becoming a religious minority. Maybe I'm wrong about that but that's my take at least.

[–] meleecrits@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The Black Panthers open carrying is exactly what led California governor Reagan to enact the strictest gun laws in the country.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

But then these minorities that are disproportionately very poor would have to go through the expense of actually getting a gun, the gun itself, permits, checks and licenses etc

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Of course one of the American Mullahs wants a theocracy. What else would he want?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

How is this for a compromise. All the churches have to start paying all the taxes a person has to pay. Property and taxes on income would soften the blow of them getting all that welfare to build their ever increasing in size golden calf facilitates.
No more tax breaks for people who pay their religion fee's at the alter. Then we get to see the true believers real numbers.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Alito is basically a Christian Taliban.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

He would be just another religious zealot, but he wields a tremendous amount of power that can’t be removed, and he’s not bound by any set of ethics. That’s what makes him so dangerous, and how he’s already hurt so many people.