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[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 160 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I would love to know how many mods are no longer moderating, have reduced their moderating, or have left Reddit altogether after this whole situation.

I haven’t been on Reddit since the third party apps shut down, so I have no idea what’s going on over there now.

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 113 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I personally resigned from a subreddit I founded and moderated for 11 years. Had nearly 300k subscribers but enough is enough.

Reddit isn’t like it was when I started using it 17 years ago and it’s not going back.

Fuck Spez.

[–] rhys@mastodon.rhys.wtf 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TheColonel @TimTheEnchanter 17 years ago is pretty much exactly when reddit became accessible. You were there from the very beginning.

I've been there for 14 years, and this kerfuffle has killed all enthusiasm I had for staying. I've switched to using reddit's RSS feeds for the few subs I can't give up yet (mainly those related to the Ukraine war) but I expect I'll stop using it altogether in short order.

On the plus side, it's furthered my deep distrust of big tech companies.

[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I felt like a Reddit old-timer and I have (had?) been on there 12 years, ha ha! Seventeen years is wild! I don’t have much enthusiasm for staying/going back, either.

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Seventeen years is wild!

Tell me about it! It was hard nuking 17 years worth of content–effectively my online identity–but it was the right thing to do.

FWIW, from a Reddit old timer, Lemmy feels a LOT closer to those early days than whatever is calling itself Reddit these days.

[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I’m really enjoying the vibe of Lemmy so far! Still figuring out how to effectively discover communities on other instances, but I’ll get there eventually.

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[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to thank you for what you did.

I had been on Reddit for a similar amount of time, but I had cycled through a number of usernames during that period. So it wasn't nearly as big of a loss for me as it was for you—I appreciate the lengths you went for supporting the cause. Thank you. 

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

I appreciate you saying that!

[–] code@lemmy.mayes.io 17 points 1 year ago

14 years here and did the same. Deleted it all. And have not been back on reddit since jul 1. Im pretty happy with lemmy so far. And yea it feels like old reddit. Time will tell

[–] CMLVI@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I and another dude modded a 30k+ sub. There were 5 mods, but the other 3 are basically gone at that point, and I was brought on because I was active in the community. We both left, and within a week users are complaining about the slacking mods and wondering why spam is getting through, why discussion threads aren't posted, etc.

We didn't do anything with the shutdown, as it wasn't "our" community to shut down. We were just brought on for workload reasons. But we're both gone now, and the cracks were showing immediately.

Sadly, I'm fairly certain it's literally just me in the equivalent fed community. Haven't seen any other subs, at least.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still visit using the website in a desktop browser because I can't help myself, but it's noticeably different, even on subs like r/games where there was never a shutdown at all. The weekly "What have you been playing?" topic isn't getting nearly the number of responses as it normally does, and those responses aren't as well moderated. They used to be very good at keeping people on topic and formatting their posts with game title/system/etc. but all of that is getting a little sideways now, too.

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[–] joeygibson@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

I was a mod for a 500k+ sub, and I left. I wrote the post about us going dark in protest, and that was the last thing I did. I left myself in the list of mods for a few weeks, just lurking in modmail, seeing the threats from the admins come in. I officially removed myself from the mod team about a week ago. We had 6 active mods, and there are now just two remaining.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

I know dndmemes went back to sfw, and I'm pretty sure there are no active mods anymore. It looks like one person can post a few things a day, granted this ability by a mod before they were removed.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I'm a mod on a 100k sub, and I haven't done any moderating since mid-june.

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 107 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The July metrics must have shown them engagement is plummeting, especially content submissions, which have been garbage since the blackout. One look at r/all shows most posts being up for hours and sometimes days at a time - it used to be a matter of minutes. Doubtless this is also reflecting in their traffic metrics as well.

As someone who contributed there since the pre-Digg days, after discovering the Fediverse, I'm never going back. Reddit arrogantly assumed that there was no other platform mods and contributors could go to that would provide what they do. But when it comes down to it, the Fediverse does what Reddit did, with more features, flexibility, and without the threat of centralized mismanagement. The only thing Reddit had that the Fediverse doesn't was an audience of millions, but the audience follows the content, and the best place to create content online is right here, right now, right here, right now, right here, right now.....

Welcome to the next evolution of the web, Reddit, and to the realization that you pushed your audience to evolve past their need for you.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit fucked around and it found out.

[–] Lemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Don't forget they deleted premium and awards completely. They seem to be making the worst possible decisions at every turn. It's absolutely breathtaking.

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[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

while reading you post, I visited reddit. the latest i' seein on HOT All and HOT Popular is 6hours old post and the oldest is 15 hours. It truly has slowed down over there. and I did not see much interesting original content, most are reposts.

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Yep - I watched the same thing happen at Digg after they went down the path Reddit is now. Within 3 months of their infamous redesign, it was a ghost town.

Reddit will likely limp on longer, but I think they severely underestimated how badly they've harmed their own business.

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[–] dhc02@beehaw.org 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit admins: "Surely nobody will actually like Lemmy. It's like if you took reddit back in time 10 years. Smaller, more niche, less brand activity, pretty much just die-hard nerds. Who could possibly prefer something like that?"

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like early reddit, except they replaced the conservatives with tankies.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always gotta have the "we don't go there, tis a silly place" area of a new social media

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[–] rubythulhu@beehaw.org 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, we’ve all had a... time on Reddit lately. And I’m here to recognize it, acknowledge that our relationship has been tested, and begin the “now what?” conversation.

acknowledge that our relationship has been tested

This is so emotionally manipulative / abusive, and says everything anyone needs to know about reddit/spez. It's like if someone burns down your house and says "look i'm here to acknowledge that your house has been burned down, but we can still work things out bestie <3"

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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What, after firing all of them and removing their best tools?

[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But hey, they’re “leaders and stewards” of their communities now, and not the landed gentry!

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 20 points 1 year ago

One day they'll even be paid for the huge amount of free labor and content they provide Reddit!

Almost certainly. Well, maybe, anyway. Probably. Right?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're welcome to give all the feedback you want, just don't expect anything to happen because of it.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've got inside knowledge of where this valuable feedback is going, try and keep it private tho

https://giphy.com/gifs/drivetribe-may-james-bin-TFOPahsj5kaAiKIYPy

[–] debounced@kbin.run 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, it's just a friendly meeting with the Bobs

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[–] leigh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 year ago
[–] ted@beehaw.org 35 points 1 year ago

I love how sassy The Verge's coverage of reddit is.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

Its the guy that answered 2 questions in an AMA pretending they want feedback. They got all the feedback in the world.

[–] crazycanadianloon@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Mods: We want better mod tools. PLEEAAASEE!!!!!!!!!

Reddit: Here's a pizza party

[–] esaru@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reddit has shown the middle finger to users' decade-long commitment, ignored all complaints, and demonstrated it doesn't care, which has destroyed all trust.

Now, Reddit is asking, "Can we be friends now so you can continue to work for us for free? We want to follow through with our plan of cashing in and need your contribution."

[–] Dankenstein@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, we’ve all had a... time on Reddit lately. And I’m here to recognize it, acknowledge that our relationship has been tested, and begin the “now what?” conversation.

"I am allowed to hint towards the idea that we may have fucked up but I am not allowed to say how we may have fucked up if we did indeed fuck up which may not be the case. Could you, once again, reiterate what you think we fucked up and how we can fix the alleged fuck up? We haven't decided to do anything, aren't claiming fault, and are refusing to bring forth solutions to proposed issues."

"Now that we have that out of the way, let's chat!"

[–] Naatan@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

If I were a mod that hadn't left yet: this would definitely put me over the edge.

How insanely tone-deaf.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel bad for that VP, because I don't see them being able to affect the kind of change that the mod community wants.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This time they've learned that sacrificing a CEO on the Altar of Public Opinion is too costly; so this time they are just doing it to a pathetic Junior Executive who they probably only gave a slight pay bump and hired from a pool of internal candidates that were leaving the company anyways...

README.TXTPlease Note, the above statement is satire only; but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

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[–] ozoned@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

This isn't a converstaion. This is comments be slung back and forth. I argue you can't really have a conversation on these kinds of platforms and at this pointit's pandering at the best and downright insulting any other way as every step the mods attempted to speak out and they ignored everything including forcing them open back up.

Honestly i understand how these folks don't want to walk away fron communities they helped build, but how bad does it have to get before you do walk away?

Sadly communities rise and fall faster than the tide on the internet. Find something for you that you control and contribute to that, no some douchebag exec that sees you as a dollar sign.

Also there were no answers or conversation there. Just 3 comments from the admin, 1 saying he'd take the feedback on the lowest scored post and then 1 refuting something and the last pointing to that refutinf post.

[–] lightninhopkins@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

What a joke.

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