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I used Signal for years and loved it, but I need SMS support to talk to, well, anyone I know. Is there a secure choice that's near-equal?

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about secure, when SMS itself isn't by default, but aside from that I've personally been using QKSMS for a few months, after moving away from Google Messages and I found no issues, it's solid and quite featureful.

I know it's not a Signal fork with SMS support, which I'm sure still exists, but I wouldn't use it because it would have to keep up with upstream and maintain the SMS feature too, so it most likely will fall a bit behind, which isn't the best thing to let happen on an actual secure communication app

[–] Masimatutu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Matrix is encrypted and decentralised, and has bridges for SMS: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/sms/

[–] Steve 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard of anything that offers secure messaging like Signal, and insecure SMS.

But there are lots of SMS apps that can be used along with Signal. No need for them to be the same app.

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's my current setup, but Signal gets no use because I can't convince anyone to switch

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

When they dropped SMS support I went to qksms and SimpleX chat. I don't even have Signal anymore.

Sure was nice to have only one app.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Stay strong! Hopefully MLS will be its resurgence

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love Signal, but just a PSA, if you convert between Android and iOS, you're SOL on migrating your existing messages. You can migrate Android to Android or iOS to iOS, but not between the two platforms. There are at least applications that will let you migrate SMS between the two.

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, losing message history is kinda a known drawback of e2ee. not that big of a deal

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Can signal even do backups iOS to iOS? I was under the impression signal just didn't support that on iOS at all, but maybe my info is out dated.

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your preinstalled SMS app is usually the best way to receive SMS, I wouldn't give and unnecessary app permissions to access them!

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

But it's not E2E encrypted

[–] lambda@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Beeper uses Matrix as it's backend. Love it!

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The App Molly is an alternative App for Signal that kept SMS Support i think

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using it and I didn't find it, in fact I checked and it has been removed even before Signal apparently

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, pain then

But i know for a fact there is a fork that kept SMS support

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this the only one I found, seems unmaintained unfortunately

[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'd just use a FOSS SMS app like Simple Messenger from F-Droid or if you have GrapheneOS or CalyxOS, use their default messengers.

[–] Redo11@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago

I switched from Simple sms messenger to QKSMS. It's really nice.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's a bad idea to mix the two tbh.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Silence but its unmaintained