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[–] sab@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well, one thought is that this blog post is from January 2019, and that a lot has changed since then. Among them is that a lot of different ActivityPub implementations have become a lot more mainstream than Diaspora.

The author's stance might of course not have changed, but it seems to me this post is a bit too outdated to enter into a current discussion. Interoperability between ActivityPub services is working fine, at least in my opinion.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

The article's age invalidates any other discussion, IMO. Far far too much has changed, including all of the new implementations, and it needs another good re-assessment.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder what would he think of the Nostr.

[–] sciawp@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

This was a good read and it’s something I’ve wondered about. The fediverse is sorta built on this promise that everyone will be able to interact across any implementation of ActivityPub.

But that’s not really true. The different types of social media have wildly different implementations, where we have to rely on developers communicating and cooperating with other implementations for everything to work even a little bit

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just off the top of my head, my initial reaction is that it really seems like activitypub is just not suitable for implementation as the base layer in diaspora.

Or at least it wasn't four years ago

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I might have to look at ActivityPub after this. I mean I saw framework mentioned enough where it sounds like we should have built something using ActivityPub as a framework to ensure compatibility in the fediverse. Or am I reading that wrong? Very interesting article. I would expect we all need to get comfortable with changing and questioning things if we want to build something truly decentralized and truly connected.

[–] Perhyte@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

We did build stuff on ActivityPub: Lemmy, Kbin, Mastodon etc. are all based on that underlying protocol.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Theres definitely been an awful record of interoperability that ive experienced

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is your experience?

Your very comment is an example of interoperability working well between kbin and Lemmy, so one would think it cannot be that bad?

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

posts from smaller communities on other instances not showing up for me

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is most likely that those communities aren't connected to Kbin yet. Content doesn't get federated automatically, a community only starts sending updates to your instance after the first person from your instance subscribes to that community. What is most likely the case is that nobody from Kbin has subscribed to those communities yet.

This is not to say this is the only issue, we've certainly seen some federation issues the past month, but they do seem to have gotten markedly better after the last round of backend updates.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why do you think I know their posts aren't showing up on kbin? I've been subscribed, several people have, that's not what I am talking about

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago

That's fair, it wasn't clear to me that you meant communities you were already subscribed to, as opposed to them appearing empty when you first search them up on Kbin.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 1 year ago

This is going to be true of any open standard used by multiple vendors. As all the software matures this will be less of an issue. I think in terms of adoption it's still early days yet.