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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'll go against the grain. Janeway was right. She corrected a horrible accident that killed two people while creating another.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I agree with what she did, but not how she did it. It was needlessly cruel.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess we know how Janeway would respond to the trolly problem, then.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I killed all of them ahead of time

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 months ago
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck, it caught me by surprise and I couldn't stop laughing and snorting for so long my partner came over to check if I was ok.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago
[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Currently rewatching ds9, with all the feels for tuvix, it's like the writers wanted higher stakes odo-kurzon

Edit: same director. Different writers. One year difference (June to May)

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

There's the right way, the wrong away, and the Janeway.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean....once they separated the patterns in the buffer they could have spun out neelix, tuvok and then tuvix too right?

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They never had the time. The orchids merged both of their patterns together into a singular pattern that was materialized. Patterns aren't saved after they're beamed to their destination. Cloning also wasn't viable. That could only happen in very particular circumstances that they wouldn't likely have been able to recreate. Even if they did it still ends up with a "Do I kill this one being to split back into two?", you've just got two Tuvixs to choose from.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The conditions are actually very easy to recreate, if you watch Lower Decks.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

In that case I'll leave you to your streaming services

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do watch Lower Decks and that is a pretty ridiculously unfair comparison considering Boimler's duplication wasn't a preplanned event and the Tuvix episode happened in Federation space with access to new knowledge in the years that have passed.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, I thought you meant the merger was hard to duplicate, because they were doing those left & right on the Voyager episode of Lower Decks.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

tell it to thomas riker and william boimler

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Which they would understand as both were created by sheer circumstance and accident in freak events, not a pre-planned event. I mean I'd also need to break temporal physics to go into the future, from Tuvix and Janeways perspective, to talk to Boimler considering that happened many years later.