Misread this and thought they were deleting the Play store app itself, not apps in the store lol
this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2024
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The worst part is that it would be pretty on-brand for Google to do something like that.
Google: We are closing the Google Play Store and rebranding it as Android Market, we believe this better represents what our customer base requires.
Android Market is being discontinued as a standalone app, it will now be rolled into YouTube and you must enable Gemini to use it.
If you still prefer a standalone app however Android now offers Google Play Store, which works similarly to Android Market. It's only available as part of the Google Business Suite however.
We are now launching a messaging app with android market functionality. Its available USA only and not to business suite customers. Using it will require your google account to be converted to a google-youtube account and your personal details, like your name, are now public.
This update adds user privacr features by ensuring all private data on your phone is stored on ggogles secure servers rather than on your phone.
Google has discontinued Google-YouTube accounts and is launching Google Play Duo. To use it, you will need to uninstall all apps and re-download them with your new Duo account. Available soon for US only Pixel 9 PRO phones with an active Duo One subscription.
I unironically miss when it was still Android Market. It was a clear name. What is a Play Store, really?
Edit: I searched it up and the reason is acceptable, you don’t need an Android device to purchase and utilize some of the content. I still think Play Store is a bad name tho
Give them time.
I mean if a lot of people rely on it for apps I imagine a lot of people would get upset lol
The days of Google encouraging third-party stores and users to sideload apps regardless of origin are long gone. We are fast approaching Play becoming as near a simile to Apple’s App Store as we could ever see.
I think it's a stretch to say that Google ever encouraged side loading. But if their plan is to eliminate it all together, that's a pretty scary thing. I don't think it'll go over well in Europe either.
That quote comes out of nowhere. Changing the policies on their store has no effect on side loading software on the os, which still supports it.
I'll go to iOS again if google takes away sideloading. Android already gave in to lose the expandable storage and headphone jack. What's left???
Manufacturers gave in, had nothing to do with Android.
Android still supports expandable storage and headphone jacks just fine. I recently bought a Sony Xperia 5 V and it has both.
No shit? Well that's assuring a bit. So it's just Samsung that's the c**nt about it
Samsung really wants to be Apple. Making it one of the worst Android phones in terms of 'doing your own thing with it'
There are lots of features that used to be common that just didn't make the cut for one reason or another. I still have old phones with a radio tuner and programmable IR remote. Some features just took up too much space, some complicated the manufacturing process.
Some of them still have enough of a market to justify for some manufacturers.
Cue the imminent Play Store mass app deletion which Google has just previewed and confirmed is now just six weeks away: “We’re updating the Spam and Minimum Functionality policy to ensure apps meet uplifted standards for the Play catalog and engage users through quality functionality and content user experiences.”
From August 31, the type of apps in Google’s crosshairs will include those “that are static without app-specific functionalities, for example, text only or PDF file apps, apps with very little content and that do not provide an engaging user experience, for example, single wallpaper apps, and apps that are designed to do nothing or have no function.” Of which there are literally millions—some no doubt on your own phone.
For developers, Google warns apps must “provide a stable, responsive, and engaging user experience… Apps that crash, do not have the basic degree of adequate utility as mobile apps, lack engaging content, or exhibit other behavior that is not consistent with a functional and engaging user experience are not allowed on Google Play.”
basic degree of adequate utility as mobile apps, lack engaging content, or exhibit other behavior that is not consistent with a functional and engaging user experience are not allowed on Google Play.”
They couldn't define it any broader couldn't they?
Pretty sure useful apps will be deleted too. What does even "engaging" mean?
I hope someone will try to make an archive, e.g. the ArchiveTeam.
It's a generic term they can use to justify removal of any app they don't like, which I'm sure is what this is really about
I guess the log of "apps we want to kill but can't justify it in a way that courts would find more acceptable" got too large.
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some no doubt on your own phone
Yes doubt
For developers, Google warns apps must “provide a stable, responsive, and engaging user experience… Apps that crash, do not have the basic degree of adequate utility as mobile apps, lack engaging content, or exhibit other behavior that is not consistent with a functional and engaging user experience are not allowed on Google Play.”
They kind of just described nearly all of their own apps [as unfit for the Play Store]...
meet uplifted standards
Lol, Play doesn't have standards.
That's why it's disabled.
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For those who dont know these already:
Aurora Store - Install Google Play Store apps without a Google account - I recommend to switch all non-paid apps to be installed with this, and use an anonymous login if possible.
F-Droid: Install apps from centralized repositories (like a package manager) - I recommend to gradually switch all FOSS apps to be installed with this (not all Google Play apps can be installed with F-Droid of course). Other repositories can be added.
Obtainium: Install apps from the 'releases' page of the app's Github/Gitlab - I prefer this to F-Droid if possible, but there is little difference and it is slightly harder to set up, so I don't recommend this initially.
And last of all, installing an APK manually from the internet (works similar to an EXE installer).
Each of these options should work on all Android distributions or ROMs.
P.S. Please consider using a FOSS android ROM, such as GrapheneOS, LineageOS, /e/, CalyxOS, etc.
Thanka for this comment, I wasn't aware there are so many other options
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Start with the YouTube app, it's unusable now and may actually convince me to cancel.
Libretube (currently flaky but that's temporary), Clipious and Newpipe
Instructions unclear, YouTube Messages begins active development.
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I mean, I know lemmy has an open source hardon and hates anything walled, but is this really such a bad thing? Google is getting rid of a bunch of shitty apps and risky apps. Nothing is stopping you from still sideloading them if you really need them.
I really fail to see the actual issue aside from "google bad"
Did you read the article? Simple text and PDF readers are in the cross hairs. Apps that aren't "engaging" are in the cross hairs.
I expect developers of perfectly fine apps will have to manually vet those apps with Google.
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Google's not been very open source for a long time.
Android continues to remove open source from their OS over the years for proprietary binaries. They are also continuing to abstract away openness. Stock file managers can't see inside the /sdcard/Android folder anymore. Only via USB on a computer. USB on a computer won't copy some kinds of files into that part of the filesystem. ADB still allows you, for now.
If you try to go to the Android File Transfer app page, it now redirects to Quick Share.
Low level stuff continues to be taken away from the OS. Samsung Android phones in the US aren't even allowed to turn off 5G on some carriers. All Android phones are having carrier select and network mode menus neutered in the US. Apple has more flexibility there, hilariously.
Fun fact: Back when it all kicked off, iPhone had a pretty big open source component in the underlying Mach microkernel and supporting software and there was a whole slew of OSS on their platform.
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Reminder that if they can forcibly delete the app from your phone, you don't own your phone
You did before?
I run LineageOS on my phone (with gapps) and my tablet (sans gapps). If Google tries deleting stuff it doesn't own on my phone it's LineageOS sans gapps for my phone and probably buying a phone for GrapheneOS.
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Does anyone have a list of which apps are going to get the axe?
They've already been actively doing it. The paid live wallpapers from KittehFace software from yeeeears back just disappeared from my purchased software history 2 months ago, and the APKs will no longer install. Not even malicious software. Just. Old and outdated, but it worked.
There is a building expectation that this will even hit some popular apps with millions of installs, and some legitimate apps which are low on the quality mark will also fail to make the cut.
Like what? This seems pretty unlikely based on the statement from Google. There is an awful lot of pointless garbage on there.
Meaning, simple apps which are doing one thing well are targeted too for deletion in play store?
I don't think so. If the app is doing something useful it will stay. If it provides just a wallpaper, a static PDF to read (think of user manual apps) it will be removed.
great android getting ruined what am i gonna use Roms? My phone does not support them
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