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I am under the impression that the best antivirus programs that work without account is Eset and Kaspersky.

Is there is a better solutions?

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[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Windows defender?

Seriously you don’t need anything else, it’s really lightweight and Microsoft uses it to enhance their paid for corporate offerings. Anything more is just expensive bloatware for 99.9% of users.

Edit: Kaspersky has been banned in several countries because it may be a Russian Trojan program.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Windows Defender, AV's pretty much need to hook into the kernel to do the job. This can be problematic with third party ones as they're just not as tightly integrated with and developed alongside Windows itself...as we've seen with the crowdstrike 2K24 incident lol

And Windows Defender is actually pretty good, MS has put good effort and investment into it.

[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

CrowdStrike haha But really just use Defender

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, giving a Russian software system wide permissions is definitely a good idea. Edit: Poor angry Tankies.

[–] ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So, what is your answer to the original question?

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

A well up to date windows defender.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Native defender is good enough. Alternatives exist but aren’t worth it until your business meds require it.

Your money would be better spent on a good backup solution.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago

Windows Defender or ClamAV

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Windows defender

[–] MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.one 3 points 2 months ago

I run Windows Defender + Malwarebytes. 2 different ways of detecting malware and work well with each other.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

When I was cleaning systems constantly back in the day, malwarbytes consistently found the most bullshit. I'm assuming it's still good and lightweight. I guarantee if protects better than Windows Defender or fucking clamav if things haven't changed too much.

[–] Dufurson@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to take a joke seriously, but if you care about your security you should use a distro that has SElinux enabled by default.

[–] Dufurson@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

seriously speaking, Arch is kinda DIY distro, if you're noob in using linux, better use another distro

[–] ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I used Linux for years, but I was forced to use W11 due to having a laptop that use optimus.

[–] Dufurson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

in my case, also using Optimus, Arch has worked as it should, with kernel linux-zen

[–] madsen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Optimus as in Nvidia Optimus? I remember struggling with that under Linux in 2013. I would have thought it was supported by now. (Unless of course it's another "Optimus", in which case just ignore me.)

BTW I use Windows enterprise iot from mass grave(windows activator).

[–] ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes exactly, also my Laptop has a bug where booting any mainline Linux kernel would make the PC Linux error logger(I believe it's called logd) to use 80% of the CPU without stopping( I have to boot the kernel with this parameter "PCI=nomsi", for reason or another that is not the case on Libre Linux, also the PC overheat due to the GPU being turned on forever, I actually was keeping up with using Linux on this device till systemd boot loader broke( I was using Clear Linux) and I did not have a lot of time to fix it.

Overall trying Linux on this laptop had made me understand that there is no way to use my PC on Linux currently.

[–] madsen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn. I would probably try a more mainstream distro for Optimus support, like Pop_OS! or Debian/Ubuntu with non-free repos enabled.
I remember Bumblebee was a thing back in 2013, but it seems that it hasn't been updated since then: https://www.bumblebee-project.org/

Syestemd boot loader breaking made me really hate using Linux, I may try again in 2-3 years to see if it works in a "plug and play" manner, hopefully at that time Wayland would be the default and maybe chimera or serpent os could have released their beta iso.