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I'm OK with Harris. Not thrilled, but OK.

It would have been nice to get Warren. Sanders has the same age issue (though is still mentally there in interviews) as Biden, and that window has closed. So many people at the federal level have clung to their positions for so long, it feels like as a country, we wouldn't be familiar with people in the primes of their life actually running the show.

At 45, I shouldn't still be waiting for my generation to have any level of power. AARP is coming for me in 10 years.

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[–] memfree@beehaw.org 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm pysched for a Harris campaign and Presidency. I'd like to see a swing-state white guy as her VP. I feel like two women (like Whitmer) on the ballot scares potential swing voters. I know that's not fair, but voters aren't fair.

Maybe Shapiro? -- if he's not too busy being governor of Pennsylvania.

Mark Kelly might be a good pick (archive link).

NOT Gavin Newsom because the VP can't be from same state as Prez and also: not a swing state.

EDIT: Vox has a short list suggesting others I didn't mention include Gov. Roy Cooper (North Carolina), Gov. Andy Beshear (Kentucky), Gov. J.B. Pritzker (Illinois), and Secretary Pete Buttigieg (now D.C., from Indiana).

Those are the first few that come to mind. Who else ya got to be the VP for Harris?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago

Newsom comes with a ~~raft~~ cruise liner of other problems. He's like choosing a red-meat wishlist for the right.

I'd be surprised if Kelly isn't on the short list. I like Shapiro, but it feels like when Dems pick a governor with less than two years in that role, things go poorly.

But agreed that swing-state White guy is sadly the only option in this environment.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

Harris is already VP and therefore her white guy running mate doesn't have to be an established politician. Go for General Mark Milley.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't care. They could put Jimmy Carter on the ballot and I'd vote for him, and honestly he'd probably be a better pick than anyone they actually would consider. This is going to be a stupid mess, just to most likely get the person who would have become president if something happened to Biden anyway at the top of the ticket. Just a bunch of panicked stupidity, because apparently they just figured out that the 82 year old is old this month.

[–] memfree@beehaw.org 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden gave a great State of the Union Address in March. Yes, it was all on teleprompter, but he moved like a normal old guy, not the careful shuffling he's been doing lately. I'm thinking Biden's decline has been uneven and rapid. Yes, he's old, but he wasn't acting old all the time until very, very recently.

I'm glad he's giving himself a chance to slow down. I think he needs it and deserves it.

I'm glad to vote for Harris. And like you said, I'd also vote for Jimmy Carter or even a Yellow Dog if that's who's chosen to go against Trump.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think he's way too smart to run for president. And he's covered politics long enough that he also knows better.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 18 points 3 months ago

I don’t care man. Just kidnap him and throw him on stage at the DNC and say “yo man we need you, say something”

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] derbis@beehaw.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I honestly haven't been paying any attention to her

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 10 points 3 months ago

Elizabeth Warren, she is fiercely against Wall Street and monopolies. It will not happen though.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Harris is good, Pete B is a fucking fantastic politician. Great personality. Great at talking. Intelligent. Great at his job as transportation secretary. Easy on the eyes and the ears.

He'd almost be a waste as VP, because he's doing such great stuff right now. He would be a phenomenal president. He has kids right now, so he probably won't run. But the US and the world would be incredibly lucky to have him as a president someday.

Dude is one of those down to earth people who represents the best and brightest among us:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQMgeasXjLs

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

I caucused for him and he won my state in 2020.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

Taylor Swift

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 months ago

Maybe Pete buttigeig

[–] Steve 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My dream candidate would be Andrew Yang.

Realistically? I don't know. The Democrat elite is deathly allergic to genuine progressive economic populism.

[–] Sandbag@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In 2020 he would have been great, the recent publicity of him though, idk if he's still the best candidate.

[–] Steve 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What recent publicity?
I just looked a bit, couldn't find anything bad or unusual.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago

The only things I could find are his tweet,

“I’m standing with the people of Israel who are coming under bombardment attacks, and condemn the Hamas terrorists,” he tweeted. “The people of NYC will always stand with our brothers and sisters in Israel who face down terrorism and persevere.”

And another article that was saying he apologized for saying Joe Rogan isn't racist

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He is a very big crypto guy

[–] Steve 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Kind of. Not in the way you think. His not at all advocating that people should be buying Bitcoin for investment, and Monero to replace cash transactions.

His ideas are around using it as an alternative form of currency that can be given to people for charitable volunteer work. A way for the government to reward people for being good neighbors and helping their community.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't really make sense to use multiple currencies like that

[–] Steve 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It depends on the details of how the program is implemented.

Every hour you spend helping someone load a moving van, cut their grass, represent them in traffic court for free, you get 1 Sameritoken (my word). You can pay for things with it, the seller can then exchange the ST for $. The government can change the value of ST whenever it likes. During the holidays they might be worth 2x. Or the local government might give you an extra Sameritoken if you help at the local food-bank or whatever.

It's more flexible than regular cash. And doesn't cost anything for individual people you may help. So even if they have nothing to actually pay you with, they can always give you Sameritokens.

[–] Thevenin@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

She doesn't have the bona fides for the presidency, but I'd love to see Katie Porter show up to a presidential debate carrying that whiteboard.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

Someone said Mark Kelly and I think he’d have a fantastic chance to win.

[–] Vaginal_blood_fart@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago

Gretchen whitmer

[–] Lemmeenym@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Elaine Kagen. She can step down from SCOTUS and let Biden nominate her replacement. She has good national name recognition and lots of public writing on every important topic. She would trounce Trump in a debate. It's basically impossible to challenge her qualifications. She is a little older at 64 but much younger than Trump or Biden. She's actually a little short of the normal retirement age. I actually prefer Sotomayor and thought of this for her but she's a little older than Kagen.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't want a liberal justice removed from the court for any reason.

Republican shitbags will find some traitor-ass senator to help them block the replacement, the vacancy will ramp up right-wing voters like crazy, and we'll end up with another Trump term AND a 7/2 conservative SCOTUS.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 8 points 3 months ago

Agreed. There's bad ideas, and then there's this.

Have we seriously not learned "never get a liberal justice off the court in an election year"? Only slightly less famous is "don't get involved in a land war in Asia."

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Much like voting, you can join AARP at 18.

Just delivering the important infos here.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago
[–] TikoBrown@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Senator Mark Kelley (60 years old)

  • U.S. Navy combat pilot (actual combat experience)
  • U.S. Senator for Arizona
  • NASA astronaut (actually been to space)
  • B.S. degree in marine engineering and nautical science
  • M.S. degree in aeronautical engineering
  • Married to Gabby Giffords (remember her? maga lunatic victim)
  • Both parents were police officers
  • Zero controversy or baggage

Independent leader whom the middle really like and even republicans respect him. Kamala will probably make him VP pick to block him but I believe with all my instinct he could/would beat Trump

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago

Pritzker. But he could also be Harris's VP.