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[–] suckmyspez@lemmy.world 98 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Relegated? The iPhone has always had USB 2.0 speeds…

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 years ago (14 children)

That has been trash for pretty much a decade at this point

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[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 75 points 3 years ago (1 children)

so very apple to punish it's own users because they have too many old components they need to use up, but if you're paying for PRO you get actual 2023 modern USB.

so very, very apple.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 years ago (8 children)

Bro what modern it’s USB 3.0 lmao

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 3 years ago (7 children)

One last little 'f you for making us do this'

Whatever, still better than lightning.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 13 points 3 years ago (1 children)

they don't care because apple punishes the poors at every opportunity anyway. soldered on ram & ssd's on their laptops for fucks sake

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago (8 children)

Apple’s not the only one with soldered on components.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 70 points 3 years ago (9 children)

Lately the base model is usually last year’s old pro processors and micro controllers. Next year the base 16 will probably have the faster IO if the trend continues.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Completely agree. No company redesigns all of their products each year. They redesign the top tier and then its shifts downward the next year. GPU, CPU, Motherboard, hell even cars do this. Not all models included Carplay and Android Auto when it launched, just the high end cars did, but now all of them do.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (1 children)

USB IO speed aside, Apple's phones have gotten to the point where 3 and 4 year old chipsets are still VERY performant. They now have the wiggle room to put more bleeding edge silicon in top tier phones, be ok with smaller yields at first, and scale fabrication over the year.

That all being said, given that everyone was going to been eyeing this USB port, they probably should've taken one on the chin and changed the stupid IO speed. Although, the people complaining about this probably aren't Apple's core market anyway. So maybe they were right.

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 41 points 3 years ago (4 children)

This is why companies like Apple are malicious.

[–] Soulyezer@lemmy.world 83 points 3 years ago (7 children)

Or because the base iPhone 15 uses last year’s Pro chip which didn’t have a USB3 controller.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 years ago

More like standard capitalism. The usb c connectors are not slower then the lightning connectors so its not like they made it worse. They simply refused to make it better.

A bit like Nvidia continuing to maken better gpu chips but refusing to have them release with a more VRAM.

If course in a way, all for profit-companies are malicious. Extracting surplus value from workers and such.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Apple's base model hardware usually uses last year's pro chipsets. They've been doing this for a bit now.

If the trend continues, next year the base model will get all the newer CPUs, micro controllers, etc.

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (5 children)

It does feel kind of spiteful. But honestly, it is surprisingly difficult to find USB 3 USB-C cables anyway. Most of them are USB 2 unless you spring for Thunderbolt cables.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

No they're not? At least when I check amazon or any other online retailer, USB-C cables are almost always USB 3.0 or higher. Only the ultra cheap ones are not.

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[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago

There's nothing more spiteful than not buying either of them

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[–] NumerousGeorg@geddit.social 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (23 children)

Welcome to the Android world where even good smartphones worth 400 $ only support USB 2.0

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[–] p000l@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 years ago

A $5 Pen drive transfers data faster. Some day, Apple will be able to figure how to do this in a multi hundred dollar phone. Need more MBAs.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The fact that the Pro (or any device) supports a newer USB protocol doesn't necessarily mean that it will be able to take advantage of the full speed. It might just be as slow as the non Pro with USB 2.0.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago

The pro can stream a 4k60 ProRes video to an external drive via the usbc port. Idk what kind of bandwidth that uses. But should give some clue as to the actual speed capable with the port.

Also, onboard storage is limited to 4k30 ProRes, possibly indicating the speed of built in storage.

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