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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

NGL I was kinda hoping that JT would see the polls and actually finally get rid of FPTP as a big middle finger to PP (or in a last act of desperation), but we're not gonna be that lucky

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

The Liberals are happy to lose elections if it means that they'll get their turn again in a few years when FPTP guarantees another run for them.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The liberals are banking on you for being cynical on electoral reform as that allows them to keep putting Canadians into this vicious cycle of a quasi two party state with minority rule that continues to enrich the powerful few while the rest of us get scraps off our labour. We need to put more pressure on our mps to do the right thing and pass proportional representation without a referendum as most Canadians already support the concept.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Our MPs don't wanna for the same reason JT doesn't wanna. They don't wanna fuck with the system that put them in power.

Partisan politics has made it so that career politicians represent the party to the constituents, rather than having politicians who represent their constituents to the government.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We the people hold the power not the politicians just because they don’t want proportional representation doesn’t mean we’re always stuck with first-the-post.

There are many ways everyday people can be disruptive to force the liberals to do the right thing and to have more than 40 liberals vote in favour of electoral reform.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like what? What are some of the ways that we can force an MP to do the right thing if they don't want to?

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many things by protesting on the streets, writing to our MPs, educating our neighbours, pushing for pr in the Yukon, holding general strikes and by continuing to bring up the topic for example.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

General strikes might help, but when was the last time one of those got serious traction.

As for the other things, those are certainly things you can do, but I'm not seeing how doing them would motivate an otherwise unmotivated MP. Especially conservative MPs.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alberta and Ontario are on the last panel.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are there too

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

True. Except the BC Liberals were never Liberal and still aren't even with the new name. Actual Liberals in BC vote NDP

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who made the original comic? I've seen it before, this one's funny, I want to know.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cartoonist's name is Ryan Pagelow and the strip's name is Buni.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Glad to help. :)

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The electorate in BC is more conservative than the country as a whole in the polls

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People want change, even if it's worse for them than the current government.

Hope springs eternal, I wonder if it will take them 4 years, or 8 years to figure out that they want change again...

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hope the conservatives don't do too much damage. PP is playing the Trump playbook pretty closely though..

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If JT was using half his brains he'd do the same thing as Biden and step aside.

Ik it's doubtful but I can still hope it'll happen.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I'm expecting it will happen when the Cons least expect it!