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Climate Change Is Making ‘Last Chance Tourism’ More Popular, and Riskier | More tourists are eager to visit vanishing glaciers and ice caves, but warming is also making the sites unstable. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More tourists are eager to visit vanishing glaciers and ice caves, but warming is also making the sites unstable.

Yes, warming caused in part by unnecessary and excessive travel, but which is specifically amplified and made so much worse locally by the cruise ships (sorry, "luxury science expeditions" as I've seen them marketed) and the human activity they bring to the land/ice.

Imagine being so selfish that you'd "honour" a place you think is unique in its beauty by directly contributing to its destruction. 🤯

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is capitalist society in a nutshell though, isn't it. "I don't care if anyone else gets to see it, as long as I can still see it."

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but that doesn't make it ok (nor logical or natural).

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, absolutely. But it shows that nothing will change unless capitalism in its current self-destructive form is destroyed.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No argument there.

E: no, actually I'd leave out the "in its current self-destructive form" out, there is no form of capitalism that doesn't lead to where we are now, and eventually in to full blown fascism. Otherwise yeah, abolish the crap out of it.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Is Schadenfreude permitted for when they end up getting injured or killed? Cuz I'm going to giggle a lot.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

"If he dies, he dies."

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio -2 points 2 months ago

Sounds like Darwinian selection in progress..