The fact that all of these softwares are owned by one company is creepy , regardless of Israel
this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
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If you aren’t using either proton vpn, Mullvad or ivpn, you’re asking for trouble imo.
Add Njalla to that list
I don't trust any VPN service I don't personally control myself.
You don't control any VPN services hosted on someone else's (e.g. a cloud provider's) infrastructure. They have full access and can technically do anything. And they see your incoming and outgoing connections. This is stupid, and doesn't give you any privacy benefit. There are good and trustworthy VPN providers like Mullvad, IVPN and Proton. Just acknowledge that.
You don't control any VPN services hosted on someone else's (e.g. a cloud provider's) infrastructure
We must have very different definitions of "control".
They have full access and can technically do anything.
You could say the same for anyone with physical access to a machine. But the people who have to worry about that likely aren't reading this.
And they see your incoming and outgoing connections.
So does any bandwidth provider you pay money to.
This is stupid, and doesn't give you any privacy benefit.
Highly debatable and subjective IMO
There are good and trustworthy VPN providers
Depends on your definition of trustworthy... some say it's impossible to trust any company.
I would pay for a i2p exit proxy
i use windscribe is that good?
I’m not a fan of any but those I mentioned.
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What do you think of all this?
I expected this from ExpressVPN and PIA, and I think Kappe was already known doing very shady things, but it's a good reminder, and also there are most probably people who didn't know yet
I use Njalla, which is part of Pirate Bay. Problem solved.
No, they don't. Because I don't use a shitty VPN provider.
Also the article doesn't load
Is your Nord VPN on? /S
Forgot this was sarcasm
I don't use JavaScript or Nord VPN
Not using javascript is like a huge beacon of light screaming just how unique you really are. There are several methods for fingerprinting you without JS, or even without CSS/HTML.
And the number of people not using JS being very small, it doesn't take as many bits of information to uniquely identify you.
And basically 99% of the modern web doesn't work without JS. I don't know why there are still so many people running around and saying "disAblE jAvAscrIpT!!!!", yeah like how the fuck am I supposed to use the web??? At that point, I could also just delete my web browser, it would literally have the exact same effect.
I think there's mainly two usecases:
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the "weird" people who don't visit any mainstream sites and live under a rock
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people who disable JS by default but are always adding exceptions for sites that need it
I tried the second approach for some time, but using NoScript became really annoying, since I never knew which scripts are necessary, and which are used for tracking or some other bullshit. It was always trial and error, and just felt tedious and unnecessary. I wish NoScript would have a built in whitelist of scripts that are known to be necessary for websites to function, this would avoid breakages and make it much more comfortable to use.
You assume I'm just worried about privacy?
Was being sarcastic 🤣
What do you think of all this?
Is it a rhetorical question?
I only use Ivpn and its pretty great
do not the vpn