Do they mean the Project 2025 that I heard about in a main story in a Last Week Tonight episode?
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The headline is a little misleading. The actual article is talking about why, given that Project 2025 is the culmination of 40 years of far-right thought, the media has only begun sounding the alarm bells since the publication of the book, and why the focus is on the most sensational aspects instead of on explaining the pernicious, foundational, fascist ideas it's built upon.
Because it's bipartisan. Every rendition of P2025 and every name it's gone by for the last 40 years has been bipartisan.
Good point, but it brings up the question of whose responsibility is it to actually disseminate such information after a point?
Is it up to the media to non-stop crow about it so everyone is aware, or are a handful of articles from a source that isn't widely used?
NPR is sadly not even in the top 10 news sources used by Americans. The Daily Mail, a fucking right wing shitrag from the UK is in the top ten.
So, is it up to citizens who have been informed to spread the word, or is it up to the news media to not let up on serious issues and stop sanewashing a specific candidate.
Arguably, CNN has written about Project 2025 a lot, and it's in the top 10, but has also used a lot of passive voice that has allowed Trump to avoid connection with Project 2025.
So, it's not so straightforward. It can easily be argued major news sources are sanewashing Trump, spending time critiquing Harris for small things while not dedicating as much time to serious issues from the Trump campaign.
It can also be easily argued that Project 2025 has been covered a great deal, but that a lot of people still don't know what it is or understand it or its importance to the election.
I think that's the question: What are our actual expectations for our news media? Is writing about it once enough? Is it their responsibility to hammer the issues or is it the responsibility of the citizens?
I just get kind of triggered whenever any media in today's fractured media landscape uses "Main Stream Media" especially in a headline as loaded as this.
I think people forget that Alex Jones was one of the original people pushing the phrase "mainstream media" back in the Bush years...
...back then nobody thought anything of it because we had evidence that the NYT was sitting on damaging stories for the Bush admin (like the warrantless NSA spying) for years to protect them.
But the attitude and name for it was a bad way to present it then, and it's a bad way to present it now, because it amounts to: You know that those big media companies that are mostly trustworthy lie to you sometimes or speak on issues in a way that aren't entirely truthful, but you know what's better these no-name media groups that are funded by foreign governments that are definitely lying to you!
Another great example was CNN and their relationship with weapons manufacturers in the 90s.
CNN has a weird history, because there's been a lot of conspiracies that have been debunked from that period, too.
They were accused of faking a live shot during the Gulf War because of a weird background that seems like it actually is an exterior shot of a building there. I specifically remember Alex Jones claiming 20 years ago it was proof CNN was liars. A lot more evidence that he was the liar.
But, unlike me (and those in that thread), a lot of people never were willing to keep looking and find more evidence one way or the other and not take the rantings of someone like Alex Jones as gospel.
(If it isn't clear, in the early 2000's I had a coworker/neighbor who was leftist who was into Jones because Jones was against Bush at the time, which he erroneously thought that meant that Jones must be right about something because Bush was so duplicitous. I think he was also smart enough to move on from that, thankfully, of course. Too many aren't.)
I know this response is way too late, but I remembered the term that mattered. CNN effect. If you look it up you'll see a lot of old articles about what a 24-hour News Network did to basically change the way people absorbed information and how that changed perceptions.
Never too late to share information. Thanks, I hadn't heard of the term!