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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol brb gonna share this with the CFO and watch them go into a panic. Going to bet they'll freak out and by the end of 2024, no more Java for us.

This is the golden ticket I've been waiting for.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is anyone else in this thread surprised people weren't using OpenJDK this whole time?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm actually not that shocked. Corporations make weird corporate decisions all the time because they feel as if they're getting the more professional version or something. They tend to view open source projects as either unprofessional or in some complicated way, actually illegal. Like it'll turn out that open source isn't allowed after all.

This is what happens when lawyers who don't actually know what they're talking about make recommendations. They don't know, so they always advise caution. Also they genuinely don't seem to know the difference between pirated software and open source.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The reason corporation are like that is because the responsibility is with the employee the decided to use the open source tool, when there is another company backing a product, there is someone to hold accountable. Also, there is a support number if shit hits the fan, and guarantee of support long term if the supplier is financial healthy.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oracle is a law firm with a large IT department.

They've been giving us shit because they "see downloads from our IP addresses". It's an absolute shake-down operation. They let anybody download their poisoned jvm for free and then tell your company that they now owe them a fortune.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's time for corporate IT to block that download

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'd love to but we do have some legitimate needs for it since Oracle software requires their jvm. It's a massive pain in the ass.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Openjdk: https://openjdk.org/

Or for people that use jre or want installers: https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html

We just went through all of this and we just switched to openjdk without issues.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't seem to understand. Oracle only supports their own jvm when running their software that uses Java (e.g. weblogic).

[–] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pohart@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so easy to use openjdk. I think the lesson is stop using oracle

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My employer has a pretty large presence in AWS. We finished migrating to Amazon’s Corretto (based on openjdk) months ago. It was pretty painless given we already use Amazon’s Linux distros.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What could possibly go wrong with locking yourself into an environment owned by Amazon, or Google or Microsoft?

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's the lockin? Is it really harder than just swapping the jdk path to switch between Coretto and OpenJDK? I understand Coretto being preferable for performance and security patches but I don't imagine it's that big of a deal if one eventually had to switch

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a big deal. Java haters know very little about Java.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

You're getting downvoted because you spoke the truth.

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oracle quoted us 30K because a small handful of our users needed to use a .jnlp application a couple times per year. It took me a couple of days but I got it working with Corretto and a program called OpenWebStart.