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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol brb gonna share this with the CFO and watch them go into a panic. Going to bet they'll freak out and by the end of 2024, no more Java for us.

This is the golden ticket I've been waiting for.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is anyone else in this thread surprised people weren't using OpenJDK this whole time?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually not that shocked. Corporations make weird corporate decisions all the time because they feel as if they're getting the more professional version or something. They tend to view open source projects as either unprofessional or in some complicated way, actually illegal. Like it'll turn out that open source isn't allowed after all.

This is what happens when lawyers who don't actually know what they're talking about make recommendations. They don't know, so they always advise caution. Also they genuinely don't seem to know the difference between pirated software and open source.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

The reason corporation are like that is because the responsibility is with the employee the decided to use the open source tool, when there is another company backing a product, there is someone to hold accountable. Also, there is a support number if shit hits the fan, and guarantee of support long term if the supplier is financial healthy.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oracle is a law firm with a large IT department.

They've been giving us shit because they "see downloads from our IP addresses". It's an absolute shake-down operation. They let anybody download their poisoned jvm for free and then tell your company that they now owe them a fortune.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's time for corporate IT to block that download

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We'd love to but we do have some legitimate needs for it since Oracle software requires their jvm. It's a massive pain in the ass.

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Openjdk: https://openjdk.org/

Or for people that use jre or want installers: https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html

We just went through all of this and we just switched to openjdk without issues.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You didn't seem to understand. Oracle only supports their own jvm when running their software that uses Java (e.g. weblogic).

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know it may not be an easy question to answer, but does your company really owe them money? I’m guessing that their other software that uses their JVM also has a license, so they should be more clear about the company having to license out the JVM in order to use it. This sounds like a scam that comes packaged along with some other software.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Oh - sorry, Oracle offers a free "entitlement" to use the JVM when used with their software if it's required. We don't pay extra for the Oracle JVM.

[–] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] pohart@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's so easy to use openjdk. I think the lesson is stop using oracle

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My employer has a pretty large presence in AWS. We finished migrating to Amazon’s Corretto (based on openjdk) months ago. It was pretty painless given we already use Amazon’s Linux distros.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What could possibly go wrong with locking yourself into an environment owned by Amazon, or Google or Microsoft?

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What's the lockin? Is it really harder than just swapping the jdk path to switch between Coretto and OpenJDK? I understand Coretto being preferable for performance and security patches but I don't imagine it's that big of a deal if one eventually had to switch

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not a big deal. Java haters know very little about Java.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago

You're getting downvoted because you spoke the truth.