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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/42738519

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

But does it make a boom when Mossad needs it?

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

After 300 cycles, a lithium carbide iron disulfide pouch cell retained 72.0% capacity

Put that on a phone and the battery will degrade almost 30% in one year... seems a lot tbh.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a point of reference, Google says that somewhere between 500-2000 cycles you can expect a regular lithium battery to degrade to 80%. So this is worse, but in the ballpark. Seems reasonable for a research prototype to be a little worse than a commercial product that’s had years to become highly optimized.

[–] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 8 points 1 day ago

But depending on cost, in my hopeful optimistic universe, that could mean bringing back replaceable batteries.

[–] calabast@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I really like the safety aspect of this, but 72% capacity after 300 cycles seems low. What's a use case scenario where this is preferable over lipo batteries?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 45 points 2 days ago

Much more stable chemistry. In stationary applications, like UPS systems and off grid electrical systems, lead acid is still the standard, due to having stable chemistry, very unlikely to catch fire, and a cost to capacity ratio that is still very good.

The degradation seems pretty bad, but if it's stable from 300 cycles onwards, you could take 75% as the actual capacity of the battery.

[–] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Boats, planes, drones, phones, bikes... Anywhere that you can maximize storage cell capacity in odd shaped volumes and spaces/designs. It's great.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why do you think they’re called D batteries? 😏

[–] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Having looked at comparative data, it's not really out of the norm...

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But, do they cause a runaway thermal reaction if pierced?

I demand spicy pillows, not mild ones

[–] nous@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of the fabricated battery pouch cells was even able to work after being folded and cut off. “That proves its high safety for practical application,” the researchers emphasized.

If you can cut it in half and it still works I doubt piercing it will do much.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, oh god. I know exactly how I reasoned that.

Slashing damage is different than piercing damage in the games I play. For whatever reason I ignored the context.

[–] robotica@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

RPG ahh battery

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

it is so interesting to learn just how far behind articles like this are

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I bet if you cut it vertically the lights will go out.

[–] apt8@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Big if true