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I've never smoked, but I've been around people that do. What do people feel during/after smoking? It doesn't seem to make people high or hallucinate or anything. It maybe mildly relaxes them?

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Former heavy smoker here, quit two decades ago. It creates a strong craving, which briefly supplies pleasure when you appease it. It provides (or at least used to) social connection with other smokers, particularly at "smoking breaks".

And it gives you something recognizable to do while waiting for something. Rather than sitting there, staring out with a stupid look on your face, you instead sit there smoking a cigarette.

It's an incredibly difficult addiction to break, it's expensive, and these days identifies you as either very old or more or less a loser. Avoid, avoid.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mentioning smoking breaks is a big part, I think. At a place I used to work if you smoked you basically got free extra breaks to take care of it that other associates did not, and depending how tough your job is it could be an incentive.

[–] number6@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

Yes, where I worked they generously gave you a 10 minute mid-morning break. Unless you were a smoker, and "needed" to slip out 5 minutes every hour. I often wondered if I could get away with just "smoking" a straw.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 57 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Nicotine creates a temporary feeling of well-being and relaxation, and increases heart rate and the amount of oxygen the heart uses. As nicotine enters the body, it causes a surge of endorphins, which are chemicals that help to relieve stress and pain and improve mood.

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After you've experienced all the above, it's incredibly difficult to stop. Never start smoking!

[–] blivet@artemis.camp 9 points 1 year ago

In retrospect it’s amazing how the nicotine addiction causes you to accept hocking up giant wads of brownish-black phlegm every morning as entirely normal.

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[–] False@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I smoke a cigar once every year or so and this sounds about right to me.

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[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Initially you get pretty buzzed.

But that wears off. It becomes nothing but jonesing for the next one.'

The moment you are done you want another, and the anxiety builds until you feed the craving.

You're not getting anything but a very temporary relief from the need.

Source: Quit 2 years ago after over 25 years.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

There's a mild light-headed "high" when you start.

It surpresses appetite (at first).

It can help make "going to the bathroom" easier.

It pairs well with coffee, marijuana, and alcohol.

In social or work situations, it's a way to get 5 minutes to yourself, or at least break off to a smaller group with just the smokers.

Due to the addiction it's a constant vicious cycle of cravings -> appeasement. It's terrible for you and costs a fortune. Prices have doubled in the last 10 years in my area. Besides the cost of your health which has always been high.

[–] greater_potater@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would get a slight buzz if it had been a while since my last cigarette, but otherwise it was a satisfying of cravings. It's been about 10 years and I still miss being able to smoke a cigarette during or after stressful situations, such as watching sports.

It's kind of like sleep. If you get enough sleep, you don't necessarily feel good, just normal. If you don't get enough sleep, you feel bad. If you regularly don't get enough sleep, you might think getting enough sleep feels good, because you're so used to feeling bad and you have something to compare it to. If you're currently in a state of being tired, it feels good to lie down and go to sleep.

The act of smoking is like waking up and snoozing your alarm and going back to sleep. It feels good to go back to sleep, but only because you're tired and you're satisfying that need. Someone who sets their alarm early on purpose in order to get that "go back to sleep" feeling when they snooze might seem crazy to people who just get enough sleep. And, like smoking, it might piss off the people around you because they have to listen to your alarm go off constantly.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The "high" is about as noticable as caffeine.

Mostly it just gives you a sort of proverbial itch for the rest of your life that's nice to scratch.

The two things I actually gained from it are that I appreciated the weather more, and I understand a smoking addiction.

It's not worth carrying around the craving for a decade after you quit. And waking up with cigarette smoke in your sinuses was the absolute worst.

This is a great description of nicotine addiction (I'm a vaper, but have smoked). I'd highly recommend anyone who's considering it to not bother even if you're impulsive and having a stressful time. Imagine adding another biological need like sleeping to your plate when after a few months all it'll do for you is allow you to stop thinking about it for a bit. No more buzz. Just cravings and knowing where the exits are.

[–] brenstar@midwest.social 21 points 1 year ago

When you first start it can relieve stress and be relaxing, but that is a trap. Those effects will fade and what will be left is a habit. A habit that your brain will do some pretty large mental gymnastics to justify.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 1 year ago

It makes me not want a cigarette for a while.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It reduces anxiety and suppresses appetite. It satisfied both oral and digital fixations. It looks and feels cool as hell.

Now, all that is more than overcome by the significant downsides, mind.

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[–] FrasseFisk@feddit.nu 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get why there are so many pro-nicotine people here. I guess they have to defend their addiction?

If you try nicotine for the first time, you will feel dizzy and sick. But you will start to crave more nicotine. When you redeem that craving you will feel "good". But that "good" is actually just feeling normal. Think of it as if you put on too tight shoes, walked around with them, and then took them of again for a little while and then put them back on.

I smoked and used other nicotine products for 10 years, but after learning the truth about nicotine it was easy to quit. It's a very pointless drug but also very lucrative for those selling it...

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I didn't see much in the way of pro-nicotine comments. People just answered the question about what they got out of it. Most also said it was a terrible habit.

Your experience with it being easy to quit doesn't seem to be typical, but it was great that it worked out that way.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing good.

Source: was a smoker for 35 years. Quit last year.

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, congrats. I've been a smoker for 20 years, and I'm getting sick of it. I hope I can quit soon.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You absolutely can! What helped me immensely was Wellbutrin. Was on it for about 2 months. NO cravings at all. That shit is like magic!

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. I've been on Wellbutrin before with no results; maybe I'll look into it again. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is also Chantix/Champex depending on your country. I found it to be extremely effective in turning me off of cigarettes. It made me nauseous and I think it changed how my brain felt about cigarettes until they disgusted me.

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I have heard a couple people say the same thing about Chantix. Sounds like it kinda Pavlovs you into hating cigarettes. I'd be down for it.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It works as an appetite suppressants

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[–] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a little bump of energy and a calming ritual that's all too intoxicating. Perfect for when you wanna sip a cup of coffee and/or do yoga or something to decompress but only have like 3 minutes to spare or else your boss will yell at you. I've found cannabis to be far more effective and safer-feeling.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nicotine is an awesome drug. Increases your focus and provides a mild euphoric effect. Of course it's not good for you, and if you've got to do it, it's better to get it in some other way than to smoke cigarettes.

Edit: lots of people are suggesting that you don't get any benefit once you're addicted, except satisfying the cravings. That's not true. Nicotine feels good even after you've been using it for a long time.

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With a hidey lidey lidey and a hidey lidey lay We work and we make cigarettes all hidey lidey day So folks can get a breaky from their stressful lidey lives And relaxy with the cigarettes we make all day and night

I like to have a cigarette every now and then It makes me feel calmer when the day is at an end.

And if it gives me cancer when I'm eighty I don't care Who the hell wants to be ninety anyway?

So with a hidey lidey lidey and a hidey lidey lay We work and we make cigarettes all hidey lidey day So folks can get a breaky from their stressful lidey lives And relaxy with the cigarettes we make all day and night

[–] number6@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the smokers I've known don't even get close to 80, and are often very sickly when they do. Two family members that didn't make it to 60. A healthy looking co-worker who dropped dead in the parking lot. A former boss who didn't get to enjoy more than two years retirement.

Cigarettes are the only consumer product that, when used as directed, kill their consumers.

[–] PickTheStick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, alcohol shares the same boat. There are lots of examples if you really dig into the effects of various things. Alcohol and tobacco just kill you so slowly that it doesn't drop profits.

[–] number6@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Smoking is way more personally dangerous than alcohol, except for auto accidents. Tobacco hurts you in so many different ways -- with sagging skin, lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, stained teeth, strokes, hypertension. Also, alcohol addicts only represent about 10% of the drinking public, whereas about 90% of smokers become chain-smoking addicts.

And, as I mentioned, smoking often kills people a decade short of retirement. Drinkers, on the other hand, often reach old age.

Not justifying alcohol, but there are so many downsides to smoking. But you can't explain that to an addict.

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[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone here is forgetting one of the main things: It gives you an escape from work and awkward socaial situations

[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also gives you a way to interact with social situations where you feel awkward. Or if you're like me and you are awkward it gives you positive learning social situations. Makes it much harder to quit when you get suicidal interactions that you're craving and don't otherwise get.

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I never smoked but know smokers who could not sleep through the night. They would wake up ever couple of hours to smoke. That is miserable.

[–] peto@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Nicotine (the main active ingredient in tobacco) is a mild stimulant. It can help people relax or focus better. You can also get a bit of a headshot if you smoke intensely

There are also cultural benefits. Hanging out informally with others, especially at work can be useful. A 10 min informal tea break every now and again would be better but that's the world we have got in many workplaces.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What does cigarette smoking do for people?

Gives them an assortment of cancers with a side of breathing and cardio issues.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It satisfies the craving for nicotine, if they're already dependent on it. Others need a smoke to poop.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

It relaxes and grounds you. I started during a particularly stressful exam phase and it helped with managing stress.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 year ago

Rise their life insurance costs on 30%.

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