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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unrelated to China, but why is the Vietnam War listed as Indecisive or unclear outcome?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

List of wars being involved in is not a list of countries being invaded and occupied, nice try though.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

honestly the map is too unserious to merit discussion

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Except that it's not. China's development has been overwhelmingly peaceful, and China has played a positive role around the globe helping many other nations develop and improve their standard of living. On the other hand, the US has been at war throughout all of its miserable existence, and is responsible for carrying out countless crimes against humanity around the globe. It remains the greatest threat to human existence today.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (18 children)

See? You could have said that instead of posting falsified maps

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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Immediately thought of Vietnam and Cambodia. OP really doesn't know much history... [Edit: I just checked because I wasn't sure, but China didn't invade Cambodia as far as I can tell. I knew they invaded Vietnam in support of Cambodia, but I didn't know whether some of the Sino-Vietnamese battles also took place in Cambodia, and apparently, no.)]

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[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Yeah, apart from other areas of china (if you can call those "invasions and occupations") there's only been one time they've invaded another country and that was Vietnam in 1979.

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[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Stark comparison but China regularly has skirmishes with India on India's side of the border.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

There was also the time they invaded Vietnam.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

and with the USSR

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

During the first and second Afghan civil-war there were also border skirmishes

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m surprised that nobody defended the Western Allies’ takeover of former Axis empires yet. I am going to write this to prevent any attempts:

The Western Allies reused the Empire of Japan’s system of forced prostitution.

Italian anticommunists pardoned Fascists while punishing thousands of partisans; there was no equivalent to the Nuremberg Trials for the Italian Fascists; the liberal bourgeoisie refused to prosecute Fascists for their atrocities in Ethiopia; and there were continuities between Fascism & the post‐1945 Italian police.

When the Western Allies took Algeria from the Axis, they let the fascists continue running the internment camps; important elements of the Fascist era survived in postwar France.

The U.S. Army continued keeping Jews in the Axis’s concentration camps (‘We appear to be treating the Jews as the Nazis treated them, except that we do not exterminate them.’ — Harry Truman, Sept. 1946); West Germany’s régime was polluted with surviving Axis personnel; fascist elements survived in West Germany.

Somebody could argue that there was no alternative to the Western Allies, but plenty of partisans were active in France, for example, and the Eastern Allies could have reached every Axis‐occupied region given enough time.

I’ll freely concede that the Western Allies were better than the Axis… but that’s not exactly saying much.

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[–] sergiovds@ursal.zone 11 points 1 month ago

@yogthos
well... if the map also shows where the US has acted clandestinely for its own imperialist purposes, the map gets a little redder.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yog, where is Tibet?

Is it safe? Is it alright?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Tibet was liberated in 1951 thank goodness

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Liberating the people of Tibet from a feudal theocracy, from poverty and illiteracy. The horror they must be suffering.

I don’t think many Tibetans would welcome a CIA-backed Dalai “suck my tongue” Lama coup government.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

Liberating Germany from Nazi rule, the horror!

If you count the Allied victory as the invasion & occupation of Germany, you must count the liberation of Tibet as an invasion and occupation.

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