woohoo. vance. lets just say its true carbon emissions cause global warming. lets just say.
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woohoo. walz brought up the bill and how its doing the things vance is suggested they are not doing. looking good.
exactly . Trump wants issues to run on, not solutions. We just saw this as he tried to manipulate the senate to not fix things so he’d have the problem to rail against and run on. This is anti-American.
But he said he would have a plan 8 years ago… I think he should have more than a concept. No?
Well, first of all.
Well... First of all.
First of all.
Well. First of all.
Minor Vance win overall since he had lower expectations going in and Walz got that one unfortunate extremely clippable misspeak. Vance refusing to admit Trump lost in 2020 and his Springfield...thing though cost him any chance of a rout, which is basically required for a VP debate to have significant upballot effects. Still the Republicans probably appreciate getting Vance above Sarah Parin and Aaron Burr and getting the media distracted for another day or two.
Conclusion: Tim Walz is just too nice a guy to say what needs to be said.
Kamala Harris is not the president, and you’re a liar.
Your party has relentlessly fought against the working class, which is why we’re struggling and destitute, even after decades of working for the scraps we have.
You’re a liar Vance.
That was a really good answer from Walz, actually.
Walz was way too soft on Vance and let him control most of the debate. I'm tired of Dems positioning themselves as diet Republicans, then acting like they are nothing like while saying how much they agree with a guy like Vance on things lol. Vance also loudly saying you weren't supposed to fact-check me was embarrassing. Walz laid out actual plans and policy but that is not going to reach that crowd they are targeting.
oh snap. walz pushing back on anti expert rhetoric from the right.
Vance is slick, but Walz is honest. I hope people can see the difference.
Walz just comes off as so goddamn nice. I wish I could meet him in person.
Do we care or not care about the future? Vance what?
Walz has the receipts on improving the lives of the middle class.
Good lord. Can he answer ONE FUCKING QUESTION? Just one.
I think this is how the evening is going to go. Vance simply won't directly answer any questions.
Walz Pro Tip of the Day!
Trump got the house republicans to turn against their own bipartisan immigration bill so he can run on the issue. Hammer that hard.
A winning comment by Walz here.
The way this evening is going for Vance:
MODERATOR: [DIRECT QUESTION]
VANCE: "I'm going to talk about something completely different now."
The MAGA technique
Is he capable of answering a single question? This is just tedious.
Trump said blah, pls respond. Lol no, here’s what I imagine Kamala might do in some alternate reality.
Walz hitting his stride now
That is 3 AM or 03:00 Central european time or Paris mean time.
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter
We bought Beer and snacks, looking forward to Walz walzing all over Vance. 🍺🍺😀
Great point from Walz on trusting experts.
Vance is... just not answering the question. His delivery is weirdly robotic.
Ha, Walz didn’t just accuse trump of being an agent of chaos – he used YOUR words to point that out, idiot.
Walz pointing out that Trump does diplomacy by tweet.
first of all let me not answer the question and go off on a tangent.
Yup. Keep going Walz, attack Trump over and over. That's all you need to do.
Bingo cards here:
https://www.wired.com/story/bingo-how-to-watch-vp-walz-vance-debate/
If you get the square with "The Cathedral" and are wondering what THAT Is:
It's a term related to extremist blogger Curtis Yarvin, who's in the J.D. Vance/Peter Thiel orbit:
More on Yarvin here:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug
Vance:
I want the entire Minnesota law dealing with abortion spoken verbatim, sir or my lies and misinterpreting said law will be true!
LOL at Walz just out there on his own and ready and Vance like, "WTF? He's already out here?!"