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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fake. Counting cards (in blackjack) isn't a good way to make money. It involves large changes in your bet size that make it extremely obvious. If you're bad at it, places will let you do it while you lose money. If you're actually good at it (he's not), they'll kick you out. It's an obvious thing that places don't put up with if you're winning.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Op is counting 52 cards in a basement game, he's found his calling, until he encounters a shoe

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume you aren't talking of a literal shoe?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

A shoe is several decks shuffled together. Usually they'll go though less then half the shoe before shuffling and starting over, making your counting much less effective.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

No it doesn't involve abnormal shifts in betting. Only idiots would move from $5 directly to $100 per hand. Average gamblers start small and get excited too.

If you do it slowly, starting at the minimum and getting "excited" when the deck is rich in tens, no one will notice or care. Play $5 to $50 and order a drink.

The average card counter is a young single dude in a baseball cap drinking a water. Wear a fun outfit, get a free drink, and talk to the dealer. No one will notice.

And yes, you can count a shoe. You just need to find a dealer that deals about 70% of the cards.

[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's absolutely possible to make good money counting cards. There's a great series by Steven Bridges on YouTube where he goes through the process of counting cards in action, in several different casinos in different states and countries, both alone and with team-play.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Oh, it's on youtube? Must be true then!

[–] redhydride@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a pretty decent job to me

[–] Varcour@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like how he went to a poker night and figured out he's good at blackjack. Sounds like his friends wanted to gift him some money even though the idiot couldn't even figure out what game they are playing.

I see people latch onto that detail. I find it plausible that some guys having a "poker night" might play other card games in addition to poker. Play a few hands of 5 card draw, some 7 card stud, maybe a round of blackjack or two.

[–] 15liam20@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is known as "The Chandler" method.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

just generally not a good person

Is fucking sending me. At least anon is in touch with themselves.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you're going to be a "professional" gambler. You need to be a PROFESSIONAL.

That means ledgers, records, receipts, keeping track of travel expenses, meals... its easy to lie to yourself about how you're really doing.

Also a lot of professional gamblers lose a grip on what a dollar is worth, because this week they are $60,000 up and just bought themselves a brand new car, and in 2 months they havent hit a decent win in weeks and are selling the car to make their rent.

Also, you cant put it on your resume. About the only place that might care if you're a professional or semi professional gambler is a casino if you're looking for a job. In that case the ledgers might be able to prove that you know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to gambling. But beyond that you arent really building to a career. So either git gud or have a backup plan.

Good luck OP.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

> Get beaten to a pulp outside an underground casino for counting cards.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A friend's poker party had blackjack? Sounds weird

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Almost as if this was made up.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Also the buy in was apparently $5 but the winnings are in euros

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He specifically said "bucks" which had me wondering if they even use that slang across the pond.

[–] derfl007@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It happens when people's primary sources for learning English are american tv shows

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I believe the term is Eurobucks.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a sizable minority of male zoomers into gambling in some countries, tightly related to the proliferation of small casinos in working-class neighbourhoods through a historical period where typical socialization spaces have been getting dismantled. I met a guy whose friend group's main activity for socialization was going to gambling and his life was pretty much a mess, roughly around the same as the guy from the green text.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I guess this could be possible, but I'm just thinking how weird it be to host such event and be the house in blackjack because the house always has the advantage. It's not really a group game like regular five card poker or hold'em would be

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Don't casinos use something like seven decks simultaneously to make card counting super hard to impossible?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Usually yes, but some casinos do offer low deck shoes as a way to attract players.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because you would need to be a class 9 sperd to capitalize on the odd differential.

Not really. Counting cards is easy.

2-6 = +1

7-9 = 0

10-Ace= -1

Bet more when the running total is positive.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s not impossible, a big shoe just makes it much more difficult. There are a not insignificant number of people who make a living gambling at casinos with varying degrees of success.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It makes the initial state of the shoe harder to determine. And it makes it more obvious when people are sitting around watching the tables to infer that state.