Is it open source? If no, proton can suck my stroganoff.
Edit: The official subreddit of Proton says that it is a proprietary CAPTCHA system. Great.
this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2023
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Proton has opened sourced everything so far and I would expect them to do that here. They have whole pages written on why they open source everything and why that helps privacy.
It's a proprietary CAPTCHA, the sources say.
Open source and free (as in free speech) are two separate concepts, software can be open source and proprietary
Give me the source code then.
Stroganoff is quite good if cooked correctly, may I try a taste of it? I'm messing with you
Does it say that both the front end and back end are proprietary, or just the back end? I'd be fine with a closed source back end
Nothing is mentioned other than "proprietary system". Probably meaning that both ends are closed source. I don't see how I can verify whether it respects my privacy or not. I don't see a reason to implement this instead of mCAPTCHA, which is fully FOSS.
I'd be much happier if they'd finish building Drive to have auto-upload like every. other. cloud. service.
We keep hearing "small team" so why do they keep adding half-done products and services?
Proton finishing drive would be nice.
In browser file editing is the biggest feature I’m missing from Google Workspace.
That can't be done without a massive, massive amount of engineering hours well beyond proton's size. There's a reason only huge software companies like Google or Microsoft are able to offer that.
it's a half done google in terms of functionality
Other than making the web tedious to use, my biggest CAPTCHA complaint is that it puts the main providers in a position to monitor everyone's web use. The blog post doesn't address that, but it does say this:
No third-party services
Perhaps they mean it's self-hosted? That would be very welcome. It might require open source code to catch on, since many site owners are uncomfortable running mystery code on our servers. That would be very welcome, too.
Here's hoping it's good.
since many site owners are uncomfortable running mystery code on our servers
And yet Node.js exists and flourishes.
What do you mean by that, isn't node open source as well?
The joke is a lot of devs import random node modules hahaha
I wonder if it's really true that this practice is particularly prevalent in JavaScript development or just a false impression caused by it being one of the most, if not the most, used programming language
is-odd has entered the chat
is-even has too because it had to be a dependency 💀
The Node package manager is used in some web applications and has a very trusting distribution model, but it's not particularly relevant to what I wrote (red herring fallacy), and GP's phrasing alone is enough to identify them as a heckler. Please don't feed the trolls.
True that, still, I was genuinely curious
New captcha designs should require you to beat a dark souls boss
Next one will be to 100% every Assassins Creed game.
This is amazing. Great to have more alternatives to Google's crap
No third-party services
Support for alternative routing
(following link)
alternative routing requires us to use third-party infrastructure and networks we do not control
huh
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I often won't touch websites with captcha as its used to train ai for google so if I see open source captcha solutions of which I doubt I will see as often as id like as googles strong hold
But proton keep up the good work
hCaptcha is catching on pretty quickly.
That's still proprietary, so you'll just be feeding someone else's systems no?
Yeah I'm not saying hCaptcha is good. It just shows that new captcha systems can become popular, and that Google's hold isn't as strong as it may seem.
Oh yeah, that's true
Cool! But i still hate Captcha!
FUCK ALL CAPTCHA i want to develop a program not to solve captcha but to actually break them then when they go down bypass them some how some way one day i swear i will
Proton is trying to do too many things and can't excel at doing one thing. It's getting too big beyond its capabilities which means services are going to suffer at a lower quality.
If the want blanket trust from users, remove the VPN login to make it anonymous and change the VPN code to remove all anti-features and comply with native F-Droid, other RiseUpVPN is the only choice for everybody to use.
Sure, push a known malware free vpn service while bashing a service that is very well known and respected.
Source for Riseup having known malware?
I have to admit that I don't know enough about any of this to be sure I'm reading in the right way. Is it "known malware, free VPN" or "known malware-free VPN"?
It sounds like “known malware-infested VPN that is free”.
You found malware in the source code for RiseUpVPN? The source code is publicly accessible, what kind of malware is in it?
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