Didn't it end after he made fun of them, then danced for 40 minutes to songs that he probably has no rights using?
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Yes, but if they said that they wouldn't be sane washing this whole thing.
I read the article about Trump “making fun” of his crowd about the weight loss thing. Please see my overall review of the event in another reply to this post for a good summary of what happened. This particular remark about the weight loss came off much more smoothly than the articles would have you believe. I agree they were damning and dumb remarks to make but they roll out of his mouth quite smoothly and nobody takes notice and it doesn’t seem as offensive as on paper.
Too cheap to pay for AirCon.
Too cheap to pay for good music.
Pretty much too cheap for most things.
I keep seeing people say this – do venues typically charge separately for air con? I’ve booked venues for large events and have never been charged separately for utilities.
I dunno.
But either every venue is shutting off the air con to fuck with trump or trump team is asking them (telling?) them to.
I doubt the venues would do that. The liability from just the medical, plus the liability of angry trumpian dickfucks doxxing your family…
Yeah. No. It’s something trump campaign is doing. And the campaign is broke so they may be asking to save a buck.
I honestly think this whole story is silly and overhyped. It reminds me of that story a few months ago where trump cut his thumb or something and didn’t notice, so there was some blood on his hand for a few hours in photos. Everyone went nuts that he had a disease.
This is a ridiculous thing to focus on, and it’s being blown way out of proportion. His rallies are full of fanatics (eta: who are prone to hysteria), and he’s certainly showing signs of dementia, but I watched that whole video, and he didn’t just stand there swaying the whole time. It was painfully awkward, but he did interact with people every few minutes.
I just think there are far, far bigger issues with this lunatic than this, and I seriously doubt there’s anything nefarious to do with the venue.
People generally don’t faint in these kinds of numbers, and at a venue or event like this, the most common cause is generally dehydration and heat exposure/exhaustion.
The most rational cause is that the someone turned off the aircon, or changed its setpoints to be warm enough to cause problems.
These venues aren’t constantly having these problems and the common denominator is that they’re at a trump rally.
Given that it’s extremely unlikely for the venue to do it on their own- for any reason- we can deduce that it was most likely at an intentional request by the trump campaign.
Now, this is all pure internet conjecture, don’t beget me wrong. But even if all the venues have issues with their hvac for whatever reason… then the simple remedy is to provide water.
So.
We can also say they’re fainting because trump is too cheap to provide inexpensive water. (We all know he’s selling Trump-branded tap water for ridiculous prices.)
Are they? Has fainting happened at other venues?
Why would they do that intentionally?
I’m not trying to be combative, but my sceptic spidey sense is tingling. This feels a bit conspiratorial.
e: I can get behind the water thing, but my gut leans towards his followers being hysterical fanatics.
Hysterical fanatics happen at virtually every major event. The most common cause of fainting is heat exposure and dehydration- and usually that goes hand in hand, not raging fantastism. (Although in many evangelical churches, it’s frequently confused for spiritual things…)
Further, these issues aren’t happening with other big events at these facilities.
Indoor venues have very good hvac systems, unless they’re positively ancient venues. But most of those have been revamped or torn down, and none of these are those kinds of places.
They know this is an issue and they generally take steps to stop it- cooling, and providing access to water are more than enough. You might get a few people collapsing because they’re stubborn and don’t want to get water or something, or because there’s a massive heat wave, but again, generally, those situations are known and easily dealt with.
One possible explanation is that trump rallies are planned on short notice and it takes forever to get the buildings cooled if havac was off.
But again, these conditions are known and easy to accommodate by simply providing water
TL/DR: whatever the physical cause, trump’s campaign is intentionally and knowingly not dealing with conditions. Trump himself has a long history of those sort of negligence- most notably, killing over a million Americans. Ultimately, the real cause is trump is an asshole that doesn’t mind if his own voters cark it, so long as they donate to his grift.
The economy under the Biden/Harris administration was blamed for the reason the venue operator could “not afford” to properly air condition the space by Trump. Governor Noem agreed by saying “Kamala sucks”.
I can't say for certain on venue pricing models, but a lot of colder areas don't have AC units installed in buildings. (I think because they don't believe in hot weather and haven't realized that global warming is coming for them next.)
Idk if Pennsylvania is like that though, I've only ever been there in the winter and AC inspection isn't my industry sadly, so I'm only familiar with the heaters and snow.
I’m in Michigan and have never booked a venue that didn’t have air con. I don’t know about Pennsylvania, but it’s not colder than here.
I really doubt that was the issue. I could be wrong, obviously.
I love how this headline seems to imply the entire audience fainted. I’m picturing them going down like dominoes as he does his weird, robotic, old man jive for 30 minutes.
Also, I watched the video – was he trying to conduct that first operatic song? That whole mood was weird, especially how the songs careened from slow downers to upbeat and back again. Very odd playlist, that.
You know the many uplifting videos of past Presidents when something unusual happens in their gatherings? This is the antithesis of those, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. He's said as much before, he doesn't care about people, and he definitely isn't what Mr. Rogers would refer to as a "helper".
I watched the whole thing with nominal amounts of “fast forwarding”. Trump came out after the first hour of his warm-up. He spoke a little bit and it was much of what you would expect. Then there were three “questions”, all of which were from guests that had been selected in advance. One was a gold star family that demanded a congressional hearing on the circumstances of their son’s death, which they stated was part of the largest single loss of life event in Afghanistan. Trump promised there would be one within a week of being elected but not within 1 day because he had already promised too many things would be fixed on day 1. In the midst of the 3 questions, two people passed out - literally back to back. Many attendees complained of the heat inside. Biden’s econcomy was blamed as the reason the venue operator could not afford to air condition it. Governor Noem, who served as Trump’s handler for the entirety of the event, shouted “Kamala sucks” to back up Trump’s statement. She also purposefully mispronounces her name, presumably because she is a Trump bootlicker. After the 2nd person was helped, Trump decided it was time for (more of the same) music, which they had also played while the two attendees were given medical aid. It was just a different rendition of the same song, as Trump’s team didn’t sufficiently please him with the version that lacked vocals. From then on it was more music and Trump swaying. Throughout the medical interventions, Trump insisted they would extend the event to take questions, but that wasn’t the case. As a result it appeared that many people stuck through the music portion expecting that he would take more questions, but he didn’t. Trump spoke for about 30 minutes total, which is basically a record minimum of minutes that he makes his people endure his dog shit excuses for speeches.
What the fuck?! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Lmfao nightmare
Trump is claiming it was from "excitement".
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