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I like a lot about the Marvels(2023), but does this movie have the worst CGI/set pieces of any Marvel movie? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Varyk@sh.itjust.works to c/movies@lemmy.world
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does anyone have any insight into this? actual behind the scenes knowledge?

the sets either look like cheap plastic or ps3 graphics.

It's very distracting and making it almost impossible for me to immerse myself in the story.

It's very frustrating because I like the movie and the story and I think the actors are mostly doing a good job, kamala and her family are hilarious, but I can't get over how dog shit the CGI , editing and set pieces are.

did anyone else notice this?

and the budget was 220 million. it was huge, I can't understand why the effects and set pieces are so terrible.

a small example: when captain Marvel "changes" her clothes in the singing Palace, her entire wardrobe is clearly changed off screen, she's already wearing her new costume when the camera switches back to her and there are literal like 1970s cartoon Disney sparkles floating around her for a second to imply that she morphed her costume?

have Marvel movies always looked this ridiculous? I feel like 10 years ago the effects and settings were more believable, or at the very least more immersive.

All of these effects look like they were made in one frantic week.

oh, and the costumes?

Why are all the costumes baggy?

like professor Marvel's costume is baggy, everyone on Nick Fury ship is wearing baggy jumpsuits.

and it's not like cool baggy, they just didn't make costumes that fit for everybody on set?

professor's Marvel's mom's hair looks crazy, it looks like they sprayed white spray paint on her head and was like okay, she's old now.

the kittens are rough, their textures, movements and physics are absurd.

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[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

I haven't seen it, and I've no BTS info, but I imagine it was like Star Wars Acolyte: it cost so much and ended up looking shoddy for the same reason - it's had the living shit reshot out of it. For reshoots, they use smaller stages and everyone involved has had less time to prepare, and it creates continuity problems when it's stitched back in with the original photography.

Typically, Disney knows when something isn't working, and their first strategy is to order rewrites and reshoots, and when that doesn't work (as is often the case), their second strategy is to seed the idea that it's 'woke', and use the predictable nerdrage from the usual grifters as cover for any legitimate criticism.

(I'm not being entirely serious with the suggestion that Disney seeds the 'woke' idea, but it's certainly so useful for them it'd almost be more crazy for them not to)

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I noticed it in the theater... There's a bit where CM catches a space ship in mid air and throws it and there's just no weight or physicality to it at all. Might as well be styrofoam.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

eh the CGI was the least of my problems with that movie.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that was like top of my list, except maybe the ending?

spoilersshe tells them she has to stay and the other universe while telling them the plan, and then they're both shocked and horrified that she has to stay in the other universe?

I had a pretty good time with the rest of the story, I like the switching powers dynamic a lot and Kamala is super funny with her family, but the CGI was unbelievably poor.

I feel like with the ending credits, they were trying to let you know that the CGI was supposed to look like that, like shitty '70s style instead of contemporary CGI?

boy, did they not pull it off, everything just looked terrible.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m guessing it’s from the special effects people being overworked and having to churn out show after show after movie after show the way they’ve been having to do the past few years. The same thing has cropped up in a few other Marvel shows/movies as well, just laughably bad CGI.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

could be, in fact, I'm sure you're right, that the sheer volume of Marvel movie says something to do with it.

it seems like a stylistic choice, the more I'm looking at it. the effects all have a thread of unconventional simpler retro looking animation, but instead of looking retro, just looks messy.

less fluid.