this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
168 points (95.2% liked)

politics

19091 readers
3938 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That's what we have when we have spineless cowards sitting in the White House, imagine thinking they are progressive when they're to the right of Reagan, Thatcher and George W. Bush.

And now this shit 'we're going to give you 30 days to straighten up your act,' which happens to coincide after the election.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Our politicians are "progressive" because they don't want to kill queer people and round up immigrants. Unfortunately that's where our Overton window is nowadays :/

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 4 weeks ago

But they don't mind that their government does

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You're absolutely fried if you think he's to the right of Bush or Reagan

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Ignore him. He's a foreign actor who is always dumping on Biden at every turn. Notice how he completely ignored the role of Congress and the hawking of Republicans.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -5 points 4 weeks ago

When Israel was bombing Lebanon in 1982 Reagan called Menacham Begin and said stop it. What you were doing is committing genocide. If you don't we're stopping all the money and all the weapons.in 2002 Bush threatened no money and weapons for killing civilians in Gaza

Thatcher imposed an arms embargo on Israel for bombing Lebanon.

Biden is to the right of is Reagan. Bush, and Thatcher on foreign policy, and on many domestic policies.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah...they need a post-war Germany treatment, with less forgiveness. Additionally, any who have served in the IDF should be ineligible for election (I know that's a lot), as well as any of those exempt from compulsive service warmonger assholes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

No need to reach all the way back to the 40s when there's a much more similar example in the early 90: Apartheid South Africa.

Israel needle to be made a pariah state like Apartheid South Africa was and their leaders tried for their many crimes against humanity UNLIKE the leaders of Apartheid South Africa.

It's the only way that lasting peace can be a possibility.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder though, maybe South Africa was easily made a pariah state in the 90s because it was the end of the Cold War. SA's utility in geopolitics to contain communism had run its course. Meanwhile, Israel is situated in still tense Middle East, and the main reason US still support Israel is because the latter provides excellent intelligence gathering which they provide then to the US and the West.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody really knew it was the end of the Cold War though

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Apartheid ended in 1994 with the election of Nelson Mandela, which is 4-5 years after the fall of communism.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago

The groundswell against it started much earlier, in the 80s

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

As much as I dislike Obama's drone strikes, at least he could stand up to Netanyahu.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Arms embargo and sanctions? We sanctioned Russia...

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't send billions of dollars worth of weapons to Russia every year

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Do we really send billions to Isreal though? Yes, I know we're addicted to our military industrial complex, but it would be nice if we weren't.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know. Netty is so bloodthirsty to stay in power. It would be good first step though.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

He'd have a much harder time spilling blood, though.

Israel literally don't have the capability of keeping up their genocidal campaigns at anywhere near this scale without the military and financial aid from the US.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

America: Wait... Don't sell weapons? Like I shouldn't? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy hell the guys in Congress are going to love this joke!

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Michelle Obama sure should have run. I guess I can understand why she didnt, but damn.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 4 weeks ago

So is the embargo around America?