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[–] artvabas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just want a OS, that just install and work for all the things I want to do, without installing other stuff, because I need it to play some game or whatever.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds like nobara or bazzite to me

Or basically any distro and steam tbh

[–] patak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

here we go again...

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I just wanna be able to play Rocket League on Linux. Is that so much to ask?

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I literally used this as an example to demonstrate gaming on Linux is easy now

Works perfectly out of the box, all you gotta do is install steam, download it and click play

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can through Proton still. It still is a Platinum game even though Epic fucked it up

So far I've only gotten a black screen when I try to launch it, so I have a bug to work out..

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I made my move just recently. It was rocky, I ran into some issues and some of them were my fault.

I'm willing to put up with it currently not because Linux has gotten markedly better, but Windows has decided (yes, decided) to become significantly worse. Microsoft could have done nothing and I would have stayed a loyal, koolaid-drinking consumer of theirs.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm just starting out with Bazzite right now. Still awkward, but pretty painless, and all the gaming stuff like proton is already configured and baked in. I still need to figure out how to get stuff done though.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prays that 2025 is the year for solid NVIDIA support for Linux

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I actually no longer have any Nvidia related issues, I think it is already here

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With nouveau open source driver?

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Nah proprietary, unfortunately last I checked nouveau still kinda sucks performance wise

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely sold - a lot of the time when troubleshooting games for my Ubuntu lappy I stumble across Nvidia issue threads.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've definitely been a big problem in the past

As of 550 they seem to have worked out the glaring issues at least in my experience

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Might be worth spinning up an external 1080ti on the lappy and see if the magic is finally there!

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (8 children)

As a Linux user this and posts like this piss me off. Linux is NOT and WILL NEVER be a replacement for any other operating system (except maybe Minix). By implying Linux is the same or similar enough to Windows you bring in Windows users who except everything to be the same. Fundamentally thats not a good thing for anyone, Windows users get confused and maintainers are encouraged not to deviate from Windows even in ways that make the OS better (for example KDE not going all in on tiling to appease Windows users). In my option Linux shouldn't be recommended to anyone. Linux software maintainers should focus on the core Linux userbase and people who want their OS to look and function exactly like Windows/MacOS should just use Windows or MacOS.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is...kind of stupid? There's such a plethora of options in the Linux space for desktop environments, workflow customizations, configurability, etc. nothing is locked down by taking a Windows-style approach to a DE. Instead it follows a tried philosophy that's only really been hampered by Microsoft's decision to funnel users into an frustrating hole that removes the choice to disable or modify features you don't like. KDE in particular has always been a Windows-style DE, and it's currently one of the best options for modern features and extensive customizability. Hyprland is literally designed for linux enthusiasts. Gnome is the Mac analog, Xfce is your light-weight but functional, etc.

You're upset because people are looking for more options? That's bizarre. I came from Windows, but I guarantee my setup is different than someone else who comes from Windows because that's the flexibility that's offered. No one coming from Windows wants it to be exactly like Windows, they just want to be able to use their computer in a way that allows them to work, to play games, to watch media, etc. It's a computer. It's your computer. It should be able to do what you want.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just did my install of Linux Mint. I have a number of complaints that are really the fault of Microsoft, other things tripping me up that are just about me learning differences; BUT I still find there's some things Linux could take as lessons.

One of them is keyboard shortcuts. I learned Windows shortcuts because they followed intuitive logic, like what role the "Tab" key has and what the Shift key is doing to adjust its action. Linux apps often make up their own logic around this, which even if it made sense internally, doesn't work with apps like Firefox which are still using Ctrl+Tab to switch tabs, possibly to keep Windows parity. Then, since Linux is supposed to be built to customize, if I try changing the terminal to switch tabs using Ctrl+Tab...it just doesn't let you; pretends you didn't press anything. Stock boot of Linux Mint 22.

You're right that they shouldn't be changing just for aping the dominating competitor; that's how we unfortunately got Chromium supremacy. I still think there's gentle UX considerations they could handle more often though. Basically the type of thing decided in board rooms that engineers would lose interest in.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Only thing better than perfect is standard as they say, if everything uses the same shortcuts it doesn't matter if they're crap

I've kept most of the same logic from windows keybinds on my hyprland config because then when I have to use a windows machine it's not completely backwards

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[–] georgemoody@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

there are people out there still (willingly) using windows xp, windows 10 is gonna live on for the time being

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Title acts as if once it's stopped being supported, the fucker will vanish or be unusable at all.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Stop intimidating folks who just a computer that does work for them with "learn" linux as if linux is a programming language. Many linux distros are super user friendly and work exactly like windows UI.

Beside, why do you think iPhones, as dumb and as bloated and as restricted and limited and overpriced they are, still are the most selling phones worldwide year after year? It's because my 80 yr old mom knows how to use it.

Most people and professionals in the world just want a machine to do their work and are not intrested in learning progamming or command lines to do it. Nurses, doctors and surgeons, non-computer engineers, artists, business managers, ..etc, are too busy and occupied to even change the defaut settings or uninstall anything that comes with windows not because they love it but becuse not intrested and don't care. Add to those groups most, actually all, girls I've ever met in my life. They have different hobbies and learning OSes is not of them. It's like a girl saying "Soon Sephora will discontinue their HilightBrushExfoilioter and everyone who wants to wash their face needs to learn Mac's DeepBeauty routines". while dudes are like we know soaps but wtf is an exfoilating routine. Literally, they don't know what linux is, and it's not going to sell to tell them to learn.

So tl;dr: I'm saying the thing that sells would be Pop OS or Mint, or anything that requires the least or none learning curve.

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