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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Oestradiolo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not severe enough. Taxing may have been a reasonable lever 20 years ago.

At this point, C executives have made it quite plain that they will carry on regardless of outcome, so long as it enriches themselves.

So, remove them. They lose all access to their wages, OPTIONS, and golden parachutes.

Nationalize the company, and replace the C suite with highly qualified members of an oversight committee who are expressly mandated to fulfill climate objectives, with running the business' capabilities as the 2nd objective. There are 10s of thousands of qualified experts to fill newly vacant roles- most C suite types are selected for their nepotism ties and their willingness to advocate for sociopathic business practices. Whose services, we no longer require.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The goal is to bankrupt fossil fuel companies. If some C suite exec takes a bunch of money from the company into his pockets, then that is great, as it kills the company faster.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago

There is a depth of misconceptions in your statement that would take more time than I have available to backfill.

So, let's just say that the strategy you posit would never succeed.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Unregulated carbon offset tokens are nothing but greenwashing.

You can buy a clump of forest and sell carbon offset points because “you have a forest that offset carbon”, but if you didn’t buy the forest, due to zoning laws, it would still be a forest.

Or alternatively if zoning permits you cut it down a year later. But you still made heaps from selling “carbon tokens”.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

It goes beyond that. You threaten to cut down the forest unless someone pays carbon credits to save it. Then 5 years later you do it again.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Haven't seen "real zero" before. There's only one way for that to happen.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The problem is that "net zero" really is OK in certain conditions. If your company consumes electricity but your municipality produces a mix of renewables and non renewables, you can offset with solar panels in another municipality. The problem is that the terms carbon neutral and net zero have been corrupted by the powers that want to preserve the status quo.