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Reporter Yamil Berard scoured through thousands of pages of court records, documents from the National Transportation Safety Board, and videos of that tragic day in February 2021 when 130 cars, trucks and semis piled up along a stretch of the North Tarrant Express. Early morning commuters, unaware of the black ice beneath them, crashed one after another along two lanes bound by concrete barriers on both sides. The horrific scene spanned the length of three football fields.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

NTE has a winter maintenance plan in place now, the investigation found, but has fought its disclosure in civil court where dozens of plaintiffs are seeking damages. NTE claims that the plan is proprietary and shouldn’t be revealed.

How is "we're gonna salt the roads" proprietary?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

That's the trick. They're not gonna.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah..Freedom. have you never been to Texas? They pay low taxes or, in some cases, have none....but also outsource this type of things which is just objectively worse in everyway....but freedom?

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no we do pay taxes. Just not income tax. Because then the poors wouldn’t pay as much as the wealthy.

We also have like 0 public space so the only people who really have freedom are the people who own all the wide open spaces. And by people I mean corporations.

Texas is corporate feudalism.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually read a book by a noted libertarian economist making the case for privatizing all roads (its easier to tear down a stupid argument if you start by taking it seriously).

What I expected was, y'know, just a bad argument. Like, there would be a bunch of super positive assumptions about how a bunch of stuff would work out that just don't work in reality, that sort of thing.

What I got was quadruple decker raised glass highways with holes cut into them for rain to fall through.

No, you did not hallucinate that sentence.

That is the libertarian answer to how you solve the problems with privatizing all roads. Every road, even those in cities (especially cities) is actually four or five competing roads stacked on top of each other, owned by different companies, made of perfectly transparent glass so as not to deprive anyone living below them of their God given access to sunlight, and full of holes so as not to deprive anyone of their God given right to rain.

The author comes to this conclusion after realizing "Oh shit my libertarian homesteading fantasy doesn't work if Jeff Bezos can just build a highway over your property, but my private roads fantasy doesn't work if Jeff Bezos can just buy up a thin strip of land all the way around LA and then charge people a thousand dollars to cross it."

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The best argument to toll every Interstate quality highway is that the toll revenue acts as a pretty good use tax. It is the reason why most toll highways are in better condition than free ones.

And figuring out how to fund free highways in the future is going to be a lot harder when the number of gas vehicles goes down and the gas tax, a pseudo use tax, isn't enough to fund maintenance.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And empty. At least in my drives, they are far less traveled.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 weeks ago

It depends on where. There are some toll highways that are 12+ lanes wide.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is the core problem. If you want a use tax for driving, attach it to vehicle ownership (Canada does this with plate stickers, for example). If you make it specific to which roads people drive you just end up with fast roads for some and slow roads for everyone else, and a whole lot of under-utilized infrastructure capacity.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

< insert bike fail meme blaming Democrats for Republicans privatizing roads >

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's Texas, a one party state, so there's really nobody else to blame.

That said... Back in September, the governing body in Harris County, Texas—the Commissioners Court—voted 3-2 to take over the respected Harris County Toll Road Authority (HCTRA). They created a government corporation that will divert toll revenues to things like flood control and help to pay for deepening the Houston Ship Channel.

I don't even blame Dems for taking this approach in this particular instance. The Bush/Abbott state government has severely limited how cities can raise revenue and toll roads begetting more toll roads as turned the city into an absolute morass of concrete when so many other public projects go underfunded.

So it's less bike fail and more success kid, in this instance.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This irritates me because it means 1 thing: another excuse for them to jack up toll rates.

You'd think think toll rates would be tied to maintenance costs after it pays for it's construction, right? Nah, not here. It's a forever well of money for someone (and not to us tax payers). Don't drive on it you say? The number of toll roads in North Texas is now so high, you may have a 10 mile radius to the closest interstate.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Smells like libertarianism!

...or horseshit. Kinda hard to tell those two apart.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

TXTAG is a blight. Whoever just bought them may be marginally better, but color me doubtful.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

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