this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
106 points (99.1% liked)

politics

19091 readers
3802 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Ukrainian American Sophika Lashchyk-Tytla says she can’t understand why her brother plans to vote for Republican nominee Donald Trump given his open hostility to continuing U.S. support for Ukraine.

Hours after unconvincing arguments with her brother, the Philadelphia native carried a kit of campaign information as she canvassed in the city’s suburbs with fellow Ukrainians who’ve rallied around Democratic nominee Kamala Harris.

Just ten days before the election, nearly a dozen went door-knocking in Montgomery County, where one of the country’s largest Ukrainian populations now has voter material available in Ukrainian for the first time. The county includes non-voting recent emigres from President Joe Biden’s post-full-scale invasion Uniting for Ukraine parole program and thousands more with U.S. citizenship who arrived in the 1990s.

. . .

“I feel like I’m trying to save Ukraine and our country and I can’t listen to your (Trump) stuff,” Lashchyk-Tytla told her brother as she departed for a weekend of rallying Ukrainian support for Harris.

MBFC
Archive

top 9 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I saw someone outside the US comment on this, and I don't think people outside the US (and apparently many US voters) are aware just how anti Ukraine Trump will be.

Common sense would say "he's gonna be hawkish, right?" They don't know about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Ukraine_scandal

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 34 points 2 weeks ago

It was wild re-reading all that back when Russia launched its "special military operation". One of the last things Trump did in office was attempt to extort and/or weaken the country Putin was gearing up to invade again

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago

People don't like to hear Trump & Putin work together after all the Muller report stuff was absolutely mutilated by right wing media and Bill Barrs involvement, but seriously... Anything Putin wants Trump will do. He is going to hand Putin Ukraine on a silver platter...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay Ukrainians voting for Trump has to be funniest and saddest thing I've read today.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

Or women voting for Trump?

Or PoC voting for Trump?

Or fiscal conservatives voting for Trump?

Or Christians voting for Trump?

Or any non-millionaire voting for Trump?

Or anyone not named Trump voting for Trump?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

“In terms of what Trump will do for Ukraine, it’s kind of up in the air, I don't believe he will necessarily provide weapons and help so to speak, but what he will do is pressure (Russian President Vladimir Putin),” Lashchyk told the Kyiv Independent.

“I believe that Trump will negotiate some kind of end to the war, do I believe Ukraine will have to cede some of our ground in order for the killing to stop, probably, I’m totally not okay with that but I have no choice.”

I think this is the root problem with... well, everything Trump, supporters idolize him and see him as some kind of super hero, like he's really that different (in this case) than the entire US government that's already been "pressuring Putin."

And the problem with lots of American culture in general. Idolization is not good. Seeing people as heroes is not good. No one on Lemmy wants to hear this, but it happens in the Democrats too.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it possible Mr. Lashchyk is simply very, very dumb?

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Brain damage and Trump support are correlated...

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

Media Bias/Fact Check - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for Media Bias/Fact Check:

Wiki: unreliable - There is consensus that Media Bias/Fact Check is generally unreliable, as it is self-published. Editors have questioned the methodology of the site's ratings.


MBFC: Least Biased - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: Very High - United States of America


Kyiv Independent - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for Kyiv Independent:

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - Ukraine


Wikipedia search about this source

Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-independent-bias/
https://kyivindependent.com/can-harris-sway-pennsylvanias-ukrainian-vote-ahead-of-tight-race/
Media Bias Fact Check | bot support