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The YouTube channel "Maximum Fury" conducted a technical test of the new Cyberpunk add-on called "Phantom Liberty" on an older AMD hardware system, testing it separately on Linux and Windows 11. The Linux system, specifically the Fedora distribution called Nobara, performed significantly better, delivering 31% more frames compared to Windows 11.

The hardware used for testing included an Asrock B550 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU and an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT GPU from the first RDNA generation, along with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM. The CPU, RAM, and GPU were overclocked, and the system utilized undervolting to save energy costs.

When testing the game at 1080p resolution with high textures, the Linux system achieved an average of 63.72 frames per second (fps), while Windows 11 managed only 48.55 fps. This suggests that the game should run noticeably smoother on the Linux system.

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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha that hit hard. This is basically the system I just upgraded to. Well at least it'll run the game well.

[–] Lutz69@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's the exact same system I upgraded to a couple months ago except I got 5700 x3d. This system slaps bro I love it.

[–] ______@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There isn't a single piece of software that I use that makes me think I should upgrade my 5600. Not a single game fully utilizes it (on 1440p res)

Older hardware is fine.

[–] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me with my i7 2600 playing with oblivion level graphics: yeah, older hw is just fine

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

cries in .blend

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[–] greyjedi@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the chances that it's just not rendering something due to the DX12 to Vulkan translation?

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Possible, but looking through the footage it seems everything is being rendered as expected.

[–] wreleven@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks Stadia. No wonder it performed so well.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

That may be true, but that’s only because Linux is better than Windows.

[–] NBJack@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows 11 is trash. Microsoft kept boasting it was "faster" than 10, but it is (unsurprisingly?) heavy in some weird areas, including a less snappy start menu, more telemetry, invasive integration with their software, you name it. Tried one machine in my collection to try it via an upgrade (a Microsoft Surface Pro 6), and the performance was so bad I ended up going back to Windows 10. Multi-second lag just to get to the program shortcuts is a really bad sign.

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[–] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It is just unfortunate that it does not run on Nvidia hardware. The benchmark runs if you disable all RTX features, but it crashes on a new game before you even have full control of the character.

Looking at protondb it looks like all people with Nvidia have issues since the 2.0 update. I hope there will be some fix soon. I don't want to replace the GPU yet it would be a waste (2080 Super).

For now I am playing it on my Steam Deck instead.

[–] visnudeva@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know what you're talking about, It run very well on my Nvidia GPU on Linux before and after the patch and DLC.

[–] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Create a new character, select corporate start and once the other person enters the room the game crashes just for the easiest 100% reproducible crash. Other people have the same problems and even if they get past that (different game start) it still frequently crashes due to Nvidia driver bugs as far as I understand it.

If it works so well for you what's your setup? I heard some older Nvidia cards might work better.

[–] cpw@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Downgrade to the 510 Nvidia driver. Runs absolutely solid on my rtx2080. It should be noted that this crash seems to be quite correlated to the rtx20x0 cards - my speculation is that something about dlss is a bit borked on them since they're the first dlss 2+ cards. It's not even exclusively Linux either, reports indicate that there's some sort of overlay (I blame the call overlay myself) that is tanking fps on windows as well. The 510 driver works great because dlss isn't available for it as I understand it.

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[–] potajito@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No issues here, more than 20 hours on Linux on a 3080 latest drivers, wayland, , dlss, ray tracing or not, works great.

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Casual vulkan W?

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now can you make it stop defaulting to controller keybindings on Linux?

[–] Nihil@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

echo '2C45C6: EB' | xxd -r - Cyberpunk2077.exe

In the x64 bin folder

[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Source, and what is this command supposed to do? We shouldn't blindly copypaste shell commands from online.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Shut up and look at the more frames. - article author mumbling - God damn ingrates always complaining just because things don't work right... 30% more frames is practically 10% less controller!
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[–] Mindlight@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

It's a well known fact that every second major release of Windows is crap.

  • Windows 95 was not the best.
  • Windows 95OSR2 was the one you wanted.
  • Windows 98 sucked.
  • Windows 98 2nd ed. worked as the former should have.
  • Windows 2000 was great but had no support for running games.
  • XP solved that and made people leave Windows 98 (I deliberately left out the clusterf... Windows ME.).
  • Windows Vista sucked balls.
  • Windows 7 was what Vista should have been.
  • Windows 8? Metro on phones, yes! On desktop? No no no.
  • Windows 10 got Microsoft back on track again.

I thought the new upgrade scheme (2 editions per year) Microsoft introduced with Windows 10 would be like "every second release will suck" but it started to look like Microsoft were able to break the curse....

...and then Windows 11 happened.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By the way, the "rendering at lower resolution and upscaling" thingy, is there a way to force AMD's version on any game in Linux? I want to play Satisfactory and got a 5700G, fat iGPU but only 2GB VRAM.

[–] cron@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forcing FSR1 is possible (and was even possible before it was on Windows), FSR2 is not.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks! FSR it is. Saved.

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[–] lelgenio@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey that's a similar setup to mine, except I have 6700XT, on ultra settings, worst case scenario I get ~60FPS, on average it's 80

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

definitely believable

16gb ddr3 ram

ten year old i5

rx580 8gb

arch linux gnome desktop

standard prebuilt dell pc

have two of these machines built and operating in the house both are able to play modern games including Hogwarts Legacy low settings at 60fps no ray tracing

some games run fine with medium or high

some games such as Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered require a per game specialized wine wrapper script that is usually already made by an awesome entity unless you go through the steam launcher and then it just plays like a steam deck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck

"Steam Deck runs SteamOS version 3, based on the Arch Linux operating system. While SteamOS had been previously developed for Steam Machines using Debian Linux, Valve stated that they wanted to use a rolling upgrade approach for the Deck's system software, a function Debian was not designed for but was a feature of Arch Linux. An application programming interface (API) specific for the Steam Deck is available to game developers, allowing a game to specify certain settings if it is being run on a Steam Deck compared to a normal computer. Within the Steam storefront, developers can populate a special file depot for their game with lower-resolution textures and other reduced elements to allow their game to perform better on the Steam Deck; Steam automatically detects and downloads the appropriate files for the system (whether on a computer or Steam Deck) when the user installs the game"

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Valve can't help but tell everyone that they run Arch.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why does the Nobara benchmark report as Windows 10 pro?

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

Wine always reports itself as some version of Windows. Mostly, it doesn't really matter.

[–] junezephier@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably from the wine trick it uses or something, no?

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