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Maybe the purpose of a system is what it does...
Maybe trying to lower the rate/efficiency of the baby-killing machine is the wrong approach...
Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it...

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

of course, ron desantis loses to david duke in a landslide because everyone stayed home again - but moreover, the elections stopped actually counting the votes ever since 2028 and they only do it for the sake of keeping up appearances by then.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 hours ago

It has always been a distraction. You always have only been able to choose between different representatives of capital

bourgeois "democracy" is just a distraction to legitimise the dictatorship of capital

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

I yearn for the good old days when being conservative meant not blowing up the deficit with stupid bullshit and lumping Nazis, religious extremists, and imperialist commies into a basket of 'people only useful for adding nitrogen and phosphorous to soil'. That was only 20 years ago

Edit: I mean, imagine an alternate universe without Reagan or the Moral Majority, and instead of Trump we had some candidate who wanted to raise corporate tax rates on large businesses to balance the budget and give small businesses a fighting chance, and holding the line at the Ukraine-Russia border at all costs. That's what I mean, pretty peachy huh

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Idk where you were 2004, but the conservatives you speak of certainly weren't around. In fact, I'm quite sure they never existed, considering conservatism in the US has always been closely tied to white supremacy and Christian nationalism.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the more I think about it the more I think it was Reagan and Falwell that flipped everything around. Everyone got a sip of the tax cut and Christian values koolaid

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

More like Nixon with the "southern strategy" to lure the Dixiecrats into becoming Republicans.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

did you just blank out all the rabid mccarthyism and thatcherism

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

No, I'm thinking of the good old days, not the bad days. The post-McCarthy hangover where conservatives were not entirely dissimilar to Clinton, but then Reagan showed up

[–] Ambii@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Well, social imperialism was a real thing. though it's in no way comparable to the atrocities of capitalist (aka. "normal") imperialism

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Yeah, that's no typo. You have regular boring communist countries that just sit there being communist. In a post-McCarthy world most people realized those countries are pretty benign. You have imperialist nations that attempt to extend their territory and influence. Then you slap it all together and you get the USSR. Or Putin's Russia. Don't let them knock over their neighbors, install puppet governments, give them any aid or comfort or intel or anything

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

putin specifically ran on explicitly anticommunist platform (the first time he was elected anyway)

[–] Ambii@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s no typo

Yeah clearly, no need to double down

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Sorry, I had no clue what you were even getting at when you quoted 2 words without context

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's a term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state

This article is about sovereign states governed by communist parties. For the hypothetical social stage proposed by Marxist theory, see Communist society.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And unironically using it shows every leftist that you have no idea about socialist politics 💀💀

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Democrats really have been trying to peddle a final solution on a slightly longer timeline as the absolute limit of harm reduction while refusing to withhold ammunition from the occupation.

Destroying this system is the only sane response.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exactly. The system is functioning as intended. Trying to "fix" it or "change it from the inside" is missing the point

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Fat fuck will be long dead by then.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

I used to be that optimistic... yesterday afternoon infact...

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

hopefully, but that's not what the post is about -3-

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/31001907

EDIT:

[...] The only person you should blame for Harris's loss is Kamala Harris (and maybe Joe Biden)

(post title)

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

They made a calculation based on the money that was coming in, not on whether or not poll respondents wanted whatever policy.

This is why we need Ranked Choice Voting and we need to get RID of privately funded campaigns.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They deconstructed that faulty argument in that post well enough, no need to keep bringing it up.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why don’t you change the subject a third time? I’ve been told it’s “the charm”.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

my sibling in Christ, it's still the same topic of Democrats having done this to themselves by catering more and more to "moderate Republicans" 💀💀

who would have thought that fucking the average working population and literally funding and arming genocide would make you unpopular with reasonable people, while the crazy ones would still vote for the more consequent carrying out of those policies

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago

The shit he eats may be unhealthy but it sure prevents him from decomposing

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Like clockwork, once a post on here has over 50 updoots, the liberals start pouring in lol

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

You let it happen.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc -1 points 2 hours ago

Maybe you should be thinking about destroying it...

And you did nothing about it.