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This is something a lot of libs need to understand imo.

You can rail on about how Trump is going to end democracy until the cows come home, it's never going to sway voters. The average person is not doing very well and prospects look really bad for young people and democrats are refusing to acknowledge that things are broken. They are promising the status quo - and the status quo fucking sucks.

Holy fucking shit, people are dumber than I thought. And I already thought they were pretty fucking dumb.

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People were offered center right(D) and extreme right(R).

I voted for least worst harm reduction(D), but would have voted for AND campaigned for extreme left.

To the hopeless, especially the engineered ignorant hopeless, extreme often seems better than the status quo that keeps you in your hopeless state.

Our oligarchs starved public education both to cut their taxes and make their workforce this ignorant. We blame our stooopids for being so stupid, but the owner class that segregates their children into private schools they do fund destroyed public education on purpose, to ensure we can't universally use critical thinking and identify their economic class as the root poison that has destroyed our nation.

The only reason a fascist, extreme right is even allowed and funded by our owners in this country is because fascists love crony market capitalism, the very same reason we aren't ever given a true leftwing option, because whether centrist neoliberal or fascist Republican, they put the market's owners first, and the owners can and do attack any candidates that threaten to reign their power in.

Which is why we're irrevocably boned, and will continue to have the choice of capitalist exploitation with scapegoats(R) and capitalist exploitation with rainbow flags(D) until collapse, as the owners of this system demand capitalist exploitation as this system's primary function, then let us vote on how to address the symptoms it causes, if at all, to make us feel in control.

Reagan was the last chance to maintain any actual control, and we gave it all away for the false promise of golden showers of prosperity in return... one day... just keep making them money... any time now... Just assume it'll be five minutes after your body fails you from laboring for them.

This is the problem. The grievances are largely not legitimate. They are regurgitated outrage of the day. The moment you deal it they are on to the next manufactured outrage.

There is no counter propaganda. When Trump lied and said that millions of migrants are coming over the border and committing crimes, the democrats turned around and tried to pass a republican border bill.

They could have counter messaged about how 1. millions were not coming across and 2. illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly just regular people who pay taxes and commit less crimes on average than citizens.

Can we please start holding the democrats responsible for their failures instead of blaming literally everything else.

That would be true if every one of those answers didn't also strongly support AOC, Democrats, or Bernie.

That's the whole point of this exercise. A bunch of deep red voters citing Fox is expected and doesn't tell us anything new. When a bunch of deep vlue voters do that, something is going on.

We normally expect AOC and Bernie supporters to be very Blue. If Fox is resonating with those voters we should really be asking ourselves, "Why?"
Why is it that some Democrats hear Fox News and immediately judge them as naked propaganda while other Democrats give them consideration?

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Well the good news is that the probability of such a program happening has gone up.

The bad news is that you are disqualified if you have all your teeth or any kind of college degree.

That parts easy. They voted against trump and got absolutely nothing for it. They went back to being non voters because the dems showed they weren't going to do anything better than trump just had.

Covid killed at least 1,104,000 people in the United States to date. In 2020, about 385,000 were killed with Covid as a contributing cause. I can't find numbers about the total deaths that occurred before election day specifically, but for the sake of simplicity I'm going to use the year total. Just note that the actual number of deaths by that time was somewhat lower.

We can subtract the number that had already passed in 2020 from the total number of deaths to date. That gives us over 716,000 people who died of Covid between the 2020 election and today, and therefore could not have voted in 2024. Also note that the 65+ crowd is historically the most reliable voting demographic by age and Covid laid into that same age group the hardest.

We can be upset at people who didn't turn out to vote this election, but we can't dismiss the significant chunk of 2020 voters who simply weren't alive by 2024.

Why does this even matter? We have an electoral college and turnout in the seven swings state met or exceeded 2020 turnout.

Understanding why something is broken is a crucial prerequisite for fixing it. If you don't care why it didn't work, then you don't care about making it work - you only care about being angry.

I sincerely hope that Democrats do care.

Like it or not, MAGA can currently take that attitude. They control the SC, both chambers of Congress, and the White House. If they decide to say, "Fsck it. We'll ignore the Demorcrats," they'll still have all the process in place to enact their agenda.

MAGA doesn't need to analyze what went wrong during the election. They got everything they wanted.

For at least the next 2 years, Democrats will be able to do nothing that Republicans don't approve of. The law says that they get to set the standards.

If Democrats want any chance of checking that power or reversing it at the next election, we are the ones who need to adapt.

There's an "ancient Chinese saying", "卧 薪 尝 胆". You don't do it because it's fun or because you obliged to, you do it so you can win next time.

Maybe if the democrats had given 50% of the populace something they considered worth turning up to vote for they wouldn't have stayed at home.