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[–] Havald@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just want to change my battery and get a phone for that no people had to die In some poor country.

Like seriously, what's the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I miss removable batteries so much. I was so disappointed that project aria never went anywhere

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I need a new phone soon, can't really wait until the EU regulations force companies to build them with removable batteries. I need to look more into Fairphone, hope that's decent. Last review I read made me concerned about battery life, I really don't like charging my phone every day either. Or having to carry a power bank with me.

I don't think there's anything on the market that comes even close to the modularity aria had promised. Moto z had some mods but they dropped that very quickly unfortunately.

[–] be_gt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fairphone4 has been really good so far. If battery power is an issue you could just bring one spare but I haven't needed to do that yet

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Bringing a spare is a good point. Less of a hassle than a power bank (although still not ideal). Battery life is pretty much the only thing I care about aside from longevity. Fairphone has longevity covered, maybe the review I read just made the battery life seem mich worse than it actually is. I'll have to look into it some more, thanks

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to do the power bank thing from time to time and it's definitely suboptimal. I think I can easily make it to the 9a though or maybe the 8a after some piece cuts. I used to play the "what's the new hotness" game and it's nice not being that gullible with my money anymore.

[–] Havald@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, for me it always helped to think about what I was actually doing with my phone and I quickly realized that I really have not mich use for the most expensive phones. A camera like I'd get on the new iPhone for example would be nice but that alone isn't worth paying almost 1k more. And aside from camera I don't think there's much difference for the average user when you compare a high end and a low to mid-range phone.

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[–] eumesmo@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was so hyped for project aria back then... It was so sad that it was discontinued.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was such a cool concept. I really don't care about how thin my phone is. I'd much rather be able to replace a broken screen easily. I'd love to be able to upgrade my camera or take the camera out and put a little more battery in it. I really hope they revisit the concept someday.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many actions on modern phones use AI. Text to speech and image processing just to name two. I am very excited to not have that information being constantly sent to the cloud for processing.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that the Pixel camera hardware isn't that spectacular but boy-oh-boy the processed photos look spectacular.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Headphone jack? Sd slot? Replacable batt?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So pissed the new fairphone dropped the headphone jack.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US doesn't even get a faiphone...

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neither does my country...but transhippers exist

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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to dongle life!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My big issue with the line has been no microSD slot. I won't buy a phone with locked memory capacity.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same!

I also demand justice for the headphone jack!

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm holding onto my 4a5g because I really really don't want to give up my headphone jack

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reposting their "Circle" ad for the Pixel 5a 5G because it was just brilliant:

"Circle" video ad

Too bad Google also later pulled the plug and abandoned the audio jack starting from the Pixel 6 series.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh that might be your Lemmy app then. It's a compressed mp4 that I had uploaded to a Pixelfed instance, here's the original Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZuSVl5wjM

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, i use Jerboa 😅

And thanks for sharing the link 😁👍

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[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like phones provide enough disc space nowadays. I was never a huge fan of microSD slots to begin with. They're slower than internal storage and I've had one fail before and everything on it was lost. I had to factory reset the phone to get the slot working again. There might have been a better solution but I couldn't figure one out.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have enough media to fill my phone about 4x over. I'd be lost without the expansion.

And no... "buh, buh, cloud storage!" is useless if you're not connected.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Everyone has different needs. I just don't have any need for a microSD slot anymore and you seem to.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you record a lot of videos?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, I have a bunch of media.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

What rubbish. It is exactly the same as every other smartphone on the planet. Updates are only new software and even then you could flash a new rom.

Click bait bullshit

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m being a non-article-reading heathen here but of those three bullets I don’t think any is new to the smartphone industry - albeit Apple is cagey with support timelines (and probably slows down on what’s fixed versus the current iOS version) but the 5s technically got a iOS 12 patch this year.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a seven year update cycle becomes the norm for Android phones that would be revolutionary in my opinion. I have my doubts though.

[–] kftX@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this year's Tensor an actual in-house chip or just another rebranded shitty Exynos?

Hats off to Samsung tho, kneecapping the competition 😂

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this article says that it's based on its Exynos 2400. Good call

[–] ErikDegenerik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

All that is worthless when the phone will be released without battery.

[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Do the 7y updates also apply to the non-pro versions?

none of those features are current or future requirements of mine. i want user-expandable memory, and useful expansion IO like the headphone jack, microsd and USBc.

there is not a single 'feature' introduced in the last decade that i care about.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The only thing that i want from Google right now is that they release Android 14.

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, I want them to stop releasing shit. IMO Android peaked already, and it seems like every update over the last 5 years has made things slightly worse.

Have they made improvements? Yes, but each improvement has come bundled with several UI regressions.

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[–] jcrabapple@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago

There were some major last minute bugs so they're releasing it in October with the phone this time.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it doesn't have a physical keyboard it's won't change shit

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