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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 minutes ago

Bluesky is not great, but it's at least (for now) a better platform than X and the AT protocol is actually very well written. (For instance having a moderation service separated from the service that provides the posts I think is a hands-down better way to handle it than most ActivityPub servers having their admins handle all incoming and outgoing moderation)

Bluesky federation is just now getting started so it'll be interesting to see if it goes anywhere/where it goes.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 57 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmy does not understand that people are leaving X cuz of Nazis, not cuz it’s a centralized corpo platform.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 minutes ago

Pretty sure a significant portion of nazis are also moving to bluesky

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[–] Dreamless4561@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Wish they would go to Mastodon, even Threads which is on the fediverse.

[–] Nangt3c@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Now left-wing has their own echo chamber, hurray

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How does another social media ruled by a billionaire gives hope?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Because it shows that a sizable amount of people are at least anti-nazi enough to move platform.

Yes, it would be nicer if they moved to mastodon, but nobody even knows what that is, nobody is there (classic chicken and egg problem), and people get confused by the whole "choose an instance/server" thing.

Is it not ok to have a small celebration of people moving to a better, more positive platform, even if it is far from perfect?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 78 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

I like Jason but he completely missed the boat on this one.

The active migration away from social media networks that are owned, controlled by, and distorted by the richest men and most powerful companies in the world to a decentralized platform that is not owned and controlled by billionaires is one of the more hopeful things to happen in what has largely been a bleak year for the human internet as AI slop infects everything and billionaires put their thumbs on the scale of what we see on social media.

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro? You don't need powers of prophecy to see where Bluesky is headed.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 hours ago

Honestly I don't know what's up with the mass delusion about Bluesky being oligarch-free. It's understandable that most don't know or haven't looked into it, but then some folks that should know better are displaying the same ignorance.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

At least maybe some more regular people will learn about decentralization (and alternative ways there) from this mass adoption?

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

It’s very telling that all across lemmy this is being celebrated. Looks like most people completely missed the point.

I don’t myself like mastodon very much, but if you came to lemmy to stick it to the man it’s a bit silly to cheer on the next man, which is what bluesky is.

Twitter will remain a place for the Right and nut job grifters , probably absorb truth social and the others. bluesky will become the place for liberals and centrists who jerk each other off because they have a degree and gay friends and think they are enlightened.

Sorry , nobody asked for that rant .

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Your rant is very much appreciated.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 12 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

People aren't going to be convinced of social/communism overnight.

I celebrate the move to BlueSky as positive in that they are no longer propping up an apartheid tech bro who's now running a meme branch of US Government, and also because many of them are doing the thing they were scared to do before: leave. They now know how that feels and what it will be like rebuilding friend groups and such.

It's not the anti-corpo step many are deluding themselves to believe it is, but getting out of the muck and learning how to take the step to change something are both things I see as positives that can be guided to better things in the future.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 hours ago

He says this and yet jumps to Bluesky, a platform created by Jack Dorsey and now owned and managed by a crypto bro?

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Whether it soon becomes possible to self host an AppView, the one remaining centralized component will tell us a lot about where it's headed.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

There are already smaller appviews that use the existing hosting/authentication infra, but bypassing the bsky appview aggregation. Nothing with any real scale but for example there is a barebones reddit/hackernews equivalent https://frontpage.fyi/

[–] staticsoar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Shame that it's another Capital-owned platform taking the spotlight. I'm not surprised unfortunately. We'll be in the same place we are now in 10 years.

I'm preaching to the choir, but mastodon is the better platform if you want more authentic community and conversation.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Chances are that any new large commercial platform will enshittify, sooner or later prompting another exodus, and each exodus will at least have some people choosing a community platform.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 39 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The CEO of Bluesky just posted they hit 17M users today after hitting 16M in the last 24 hours.

The juice is juicin'.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Threads, Blue Sky and Mastodon are at 292.8m mau vs Twitter’s 304m

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

If it was owned by the community that moderated it, then yes. But no it's owned by another rich asshole.

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago

Anything which drives nails into the xitter coffin is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Bluesky may not tick many people's boxes here on lemmy, but this migration shows that lots of people wanted to leave xitter but didn't see an option. Threads clearly didn't attract them, likely due to the owner. I hope it nothing else, Bluesky is a less toxic place and xitter and musk become less relevant. In the long run Bluesky may end up being another head of the hydra , but for now, it's not, and it may get people used to the idea of federation.

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Whhhhhhy?

This is the same thing. This is the exact same type of platform that will eventually go the same way. This is shooting yourself in the foot once, then aiming the shotgun at the other foot and pulling the trigger thinking that the bullet was a fluke the first time.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 12 points 7 hours ago

Because most people switching don’t know (or care) about the fediverse and decentralization. They are regular internet users who just want to get away from the cesspool that is twitter, so they go where other people are going.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

To be fair Musk buying twitter and turning it into a Nazi propaganda site was kind of flukey.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 9 points 8 hours ago

Twitter was already really bad, Musk just brought back the Nazis and fired all the people that were the guardrails.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago

Bluesky just got major investment from a crypto bro...

It's not flukey...

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

I'm really enjoying Bluesky strangely enough, not normally my thing.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The main thing I would like to know is why so many people nowadays want a microblog platform, whether it is X or Bluesky or Mastodon, and why community-based platforms like Lemmy are getting relatively little attention in comparison.

Is it just that these people weren't seriously online before the rise of microblogs? They didn't start out with phpBB-style forums, so don't miss their existence and think that individuals having followers is the normal state of the Internet? I'm genuinely not super sure what's going on.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

People have different tastes, which can vary.

Microblogging is something more casual, and has more focus on the people sharing content. Community foruns are revolved around the content shared, so you don't really get to know people, so it has a difference on what they actually want.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Anybody recommend a good mastodon instance?

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

my personal solo instance is great but the admin is an asshole.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Pick any instance that suits your interests: https://joinmastodon.org/en/servers There is also this picker.

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[–] CoderSupreme@programming.dev 11 points 9 hours ago

It's venture capital. Eventually it will stop being open source and will enshitify just like every other platform. So nothing is changing long term in my opinion.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

is also decentralized and is federated, meaning it is moving toward a future where users “own” their audiences and can port them elsewhere (you can, and many do, argue about the details here, and about the differences between ActivityPub, which Mastodon uses, and the AT Protocol, which Bluesky uses).

Best coverage yet for that alone

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