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As we all know, Ravio has been removed from the recommended multi-factor authentication apps for iOS on PrivacyGuides.

As I want to export all my TOTP codes out of Ravio ASAP, what apps are you migrating towards? I know a few were mentioned such as:

• Tofu • Ente • 2FAS • FreeOTP • Bitwarden TOTP + Yubikey

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[–] unbuckled@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I switched to 2FAS.

You can’t export from FreeOTP. Ente doesn’t appear to be open source. Tofu is an option but I’m afraid it might not be maintained.

Edit: Use Ente. It’s the best option.

[–] whysofurious@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ente Auth seems open source: https://github.com/ente-io/auth

But the need for account is trowing me off a little bit. I’ll give a try to 2FAS as well.

[–] sir_whocampsalot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

From ente Authenticator launch blog post, they do state it is open-source.

[–] opt9@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can export from freeOTP+ Its great. You can back up to another password manager by simply copying the shared secret also. But I don't think it's available for iOS. Oh well, if you want more freedom and privacy, you'll have to move to android.

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[–] Thief@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The password manager for iphone or ios has mfa built in - seems to work ok. Its a bit annoying if you use a desktop thats not mac though and have to search for the mfa code among the millions of passwords.

[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

iCloud Keychain is available as a chrome extension now, works on windows too. Hopefully Firefox is in the works

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[–] Supercharger@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are people switching away from Raivo?

/c/outoftheloop

Edit: Looks like it's been bought by a generic app developer about which there are few details to be found: https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/raivo-otp-authenticator-has-been-acquired/4962/2

[–] DeflectedBullhorn@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: After digging into 2FAS, I think it is now my top choice. Seems like more of a drop in replacement for Raivo. https://2fas.com/

My second choice is (as of this edit) Owky. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it, but it’s FOSS and has the ability to export your TOTP codes.

Im a little worried about it not being maintained though, since it’s a single developer.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/owky-two-factor-authenticator/id1602245257

Other options I’ve considered:

Tofu Authenticator. Unfortunately it’s basic though and lacks the ability to export.

ente Authenticator. Account required, and I’m a little undecided on the company. Might be a serious option though.

[–] caglel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use Authy. It has Apple Watch app for quick access.

[–] bluesydney@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have been using Authy as well. Works great in an apple ecosystem too.

Allows a quick copy from your phone to paste into computer browser when prompted for super easy usage.

[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in the middle of switching 2FA over to Raivo from Apple Keychain and you drop this aaaaa-

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[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly have been loving iCloud Keychain. I’m pretty all-in Apple though, if I was more multi plat I would move to 2FAS

[–] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not a big fan of putting all your eggs in one basket. If for whatever reason your Apple account gets compromised, you’re utterly fucked lol.

[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah this was something I considered when I moved over. But between the advanced data protection feature and my technical savvy I decided the convince was worth it because chances of my account getting compromised are very very very very low

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[–] googlesnarfen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I‘m using Google Authenticator, but so far nobody else here seems to, am I doing it wrong??

[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Considering googles track record with privacy I would hesitate to use it

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

They make it hard to export your seeds if you want to move to the other platform or new device + closed source.

On Android Aegis is the great alternative. On iOS Raivo OTP used to be the main recommendation, but they just got bought by relatively unknown company, which is sketcy in on itself.

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[–] kennocha@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a fan of 1Password. Makes it easy to keep all my secrets in one place, behind a yubikey.

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 2 points 1 year ago

1Pass auto fill of 2FA is so OP on desktop.

I love the family sharing features as well.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

Fan of OTP Auth

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I'm not on iOS but... the websites I need to use for various work things all require that you use a specific authenticator. But they all choose a different random one. It drives me insane. I have 4 different apps. Google Authenticator, Authy, Duo Mobile, and Onelogin Protect. I pray I change jobs before I get a new phone.

[–] DeflectedBullhorn@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I realize there are exceptions to this, and you might fall into that category, but…

Most of the time when websites say they require a particular app, they actually don’t. Like if a website says to use Google Authenticator, you can actually use any TOTP app. There is even a workaround for using Steam’s TOTP without their app.

Don’t be scared to just try importing the QR or text based code into another app when you are signing up for a service. A functioning website won’t let you progress to the next screen without having the proper code in your app.

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[–] kuroshido@ani.social 4 points 1 year ago

I’m a fan of OTP Auth.

It’s been reliable, supports local and cloud backup / exporting, is simplistic in use and has a strong privacy policy.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm currently enjoying ProtonPass' built-in 2FA. You gotta be on a paid plan, however, but it's worth it imo.

[–] Probable5959@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you keeping the 2FA code for your proton account? (Supposing you have it set up)

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I keep that one in my iCloud keychain just out of convenience

[–] relevantnanana@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

They got bought out by Mobime.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Bitwarden for everything, including my totp codes. I should probably use a separate app solely for Bitwarden's totp code, but the danger of losing it all gives me such a rush!

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totp with bitwarden. Such a nice integration

[–] b9chomps@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm curious. I know Bitwarden or keepass can handle TOTPs, but can't I unlock your Bitwarden vault and have access to your password and 2fa code? Or do they have protection against it? Otherwise I have everything I need.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

yes, that's the downside of it. You can add additional password requests for some things, but not sure if it works for 2FA. (basically: if you want to use this resource, unlock the vault, but also additionally request the password again)

[–] gogosempai@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have been using ProtonMail and Drive already so it was an easy decision to switch to Proton Pass when it came out. It's an all-in-one password manager which let's you store 2FA as well and also let's you make email aliases. It's synced everywhere, on Firefox on my linux desktop to my android phone to my iPad.

[–] om1k@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I use keepassxc topt

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 2 points 1 year ago

None, just using the built in manager.

[–] Cotillion189@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I switched to 2FAS but im also looking into Proton Pass since im subscriber (password manager + 2FA) but i dont want to put all my eggs in one basket. Atm im using proton pass for unimportant stuff.

[–] CarlCook@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend Raivo or Tofu both open source and I believe you can save and export it somewhere else to backup.

[–] privacyfalcon9899@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I am undecided btw 2FAS and Ente. 2FAS has an excellent UI, but there is no desktop app. Ente requires an account, but it’s not a problem considering that everything is E2EE and it’s a company with good reputation.

[–] Plissken185@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I’m currently in the process of switching to 2fas. It seemed the best available alternative for me.

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