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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

We’re talking about an organization that refuses to retrofit their ships with seatbelts despite who-knows-how-many crew members dying every week from getting tossed out of their chairs in a fight or when anything unexpected happens.

Also… surge protection… just saying.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Let me introduce you to 'rm -rf /', and variants thereof

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

"Safety Protocols Off"

What the fuck? Why is that an option through a vocal command?! If it's really needed, that should require someone from engineering to make the adjustment and it better be for a damn good reason, not just "I wanna experience real danger". With the amount of issues that come from Holodeck malfunctions, it's insane that Star Fleet allows them at all, especially because they seem to fail quite often in their hands.

Seriously, Quark has a better safety record than Star Fleet when it comes to those. His holodecks have only had ONE major incident (Our Man Bashir) and even then it could be argued that the holodeck saved the crew by injecting their patterns into the program when they would have otherwise been entirely lost. Compare that to the Enterprise or Voyager where they have a Holodeck disaster every other week, often self-inflicted.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

If it took more than "safety protocols off" then the federation would have never existed due to earth being assimilated/destroyed by the Borg right around the time they discovered warp flight. And if they waited for after that flight, they could assimilate the passing Vulcans, too, though all they'd have to do is warp with the enterprise after taking that over and someone would have come to give them some ships to get started with.

The big question would have been if the new alpha quadrant Borg faction would have joined the OG Delta faction or would have been a rival.

Though I'm not sure why the Borg adaptive shields didn't stop the bullets, since they were energy-based rather than ballistic, and wouldn't have been designed to use phasing to defeat enemy shields.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Computers were already doing the "Are you sure you want to do this? Y/N" in 1987 so I just don't get it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

"We can't duplicate Data. He's too complicated and we don't understand how to make machines have sentience."

But also

"Hey, I just made a new sentient life by asking the computer to be cooler than Data!"

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago

You'd think the whole ship would go dark while it was building Moriarty, like the Heart of Gold trying to make a cup of tea.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Plus the ship's computer was able to simulate bleeding edge physics and do advanced problem solving. Between holograph emitters and that computer, I'm not sure why they needed mortals running the ships, other than for fun.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

And, like, 20 other sentient holodeck characters. I guess you can be sentient as long as you don't mind being trapped in a virtual prison (or have a mobile holo-emitter).

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I always wondered why they didn't have a backup computer. Or emergency lighting. Or UPS batteries for life support.

And why they tested unproven technologies on the Federation's flagship with 200 families on board.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

they did. they would mention backups and when everything was out except life support that is because of the reserves for life support. the lighting did change but not go out completely with power outages. there may be some episodes where it did but presumably whatever happened in those also hit the backups.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 6 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, the episodes where it's actually pitch black on a Star Fleet ship are few and far between. Off the top of my head, the main one I can think of is when Neelix tells ghost stories to the Borg children and Naomi

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

You're lucky "end program" is two words there Skippy.

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

this font gave me phyrox plague

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Blame Gene Roddenberry, I guess.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

um self destruct can only be instigated by some officers and has to be concured with others and command codes have to be given. unless your talking about something else???

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

wasn't that sorta a hacked scenario though. not like it was standard operating procedure.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nope. Completely standard. Didn't even take off the safety.

LAFORGE: Computer, in the Holmesian style, create a mystery to confound Data with an opponent who has the ability to defeat him.
COMPUTER: Define parameters of programme.
PULASKI: What does that mean?
LAFORGE: Computer wants to know how far to take the game.
PULASKI: You mean it's giving you a chance to limit your risk.
LAFORGE: No, the parameters will be whatever is necessary in order to accomplish the directive. Create an adversary capable of defeating Data.

http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/129.htm

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I still feel this is like a coder messing with the code and introducing a bug. Pulaski does not get what he is doign but laforge being an engineer is familiar with messing around like that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If it's that easy to bypass safety protocols, that's a big issue.

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Starfleet runs on Linux, confirmed.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Even centuries later, GNU Hurd still isn't viable.