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    [–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

    So gentoo it is then

    [–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    I use Ubuntu and don't know anything about technical stuff 😋✨

    [–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Anybody know of citation software such as Zotero that runs stably on LibreOffice? I will gladly switch but this is holding me back.

    [–] Maroon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    What issue do you face specifically? Because my Zotero and LibreOffice run very smoothly together on my Linux Mint machine.

    But if you want to poke around and look for alternative software, check this wiki page:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software

    [–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    I tried Zotero/Libre with Ubuntu and it had some bugs. Unfortunately I don't have time to troubleshoot software combinations or go into source code... I'm just a user.

    [–] Bosht@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Look man. I use my computer primarily for gaming, with a little web browsing. The second Linux can support all games without me having to wrangle and worry about compatibility, plus whatever else config shit I have to go through that I'm sure I'm unaware of, I'll jump ship headfirst. I'm fucking sick of Microsoft's bullshit.

    [–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    Linux supports most games nowadays. It will never support "all" games. Just like windows doesn't support all games. At this point in time, saying Linux is not good enough with gaming is weird..

    [–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

    At this point games that doesn't support Linux are games that use anti-cheat

    [–] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

    Depending on what games you play it's anywhere from unusable (games with incompatible anticheat) to flat out better than windows even ignoring all the surrounding bullshit. But many of these gsmes with anticheat are among the most popular games in the world, so there's plenty of reason not to change just bc of those for a lot of people.

    [–] hmm@scribe.disroot.org 10 points 7 hours ago

    i've seen someone installed Ubuntu LTS on his gaming pc. he said he has been spending hours to use it, in the end he decided to reinstall windows 11.

    [–] Juice260@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Beginner friendly??? Not sure how to explain this to Linux users that post on Lemmy but we’re not the regular pc user and have a very different view on beginner friendly lol

    I tried explaining to some of my non-technical friends what a "Linux distribution" is. Most don't quite understand what I mean by "operating system". I think we're in a bit of a bubble here.

    [–] ShadowGlider@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

    I recently swapped to Linux Mint and it really was not harder than Windows, and I know functionally nothing on how anything Linux related actually works.

    [–] RGB@lemmy.today 4 points 8 hours ago

    Just use winutil tool. Very fast to debloat and disabled telemetry. Of course if you can't reasonably switch to Linux atm.

    [–] vinyl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

    If you are installing Windows with that route, you sure as hell won't be picking beginner friendly distro.

    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 hours ago

    Honestly I've found most distros pretty solid. It's just the software that can be buggy. Gnome for me crashes on gpu's with 4gb of vram, like the rx 5500 and 1650. Steam is better now but I remember the interface being very jank. Left clicking something just made the drop down menu disappear and not actually select it. A lot of programs still not scaling right on Wayland even tho xorg has been dead for years on years. Ect...

    But even with all these issues I've had recently and not so recently... Still so much better than windows

    [–] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

    Ehhh....as a Linux beginner on Ubuntu I disagree... I spent a couple hours trying to get an AppImage application as a desktop icon.

    Spent an additional hour or two to mount NAS drives. Fstab?? Wtf.

    My secondary monitor flickers to black randomly for a just couple minutes after startup and there's no way I'm going to dig through Wayland to figure out why. Monitor orientation is incorrect on startup and I again don't want to dig through Wayland or whatever cfg file I need to open.....yet.

    Still needed to browse at least 5 different sources for answers.

    I'm glad Firefox doesn't crash at 500 tabs or w/e but Linux still has issues with some primitive tasks that windows has well figured out.

    [–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

    It's funny because as somebody that's been using Linux full-time for over 10 years I actually really really really really hate that Ubuntu is considered beginner friendly because I often find very very simple tasks incredibly frustrating on it.

    I know that everybody disagrees with me but I genuinely think that something based on arch like Endeavor OS is genuinely more beginner friendly. You don't have to fight with repositories to get up to date drivers, virtually any piece of software you could ever want is either already in the extra/community repo or available through the Aur. And while yes it is possible that an update could end up causing an issue on your system Pac-Man is just way way better about not completely destroying the system and it is pretty easy to roll back. Even in a really really bad worst case scenario booting from a live USB and rolling back with chroot is easy enough I've actually walked people through it before.

    Meanwhile the amount of times on both Debian and Ubuntu that I have had apt completely eviscerate a system just trying to do basic updates and then just bail out Midway leaving the system so broken that the terminal barely functions anymore is frustrating. And there's no particularly easy path to fixing that because dpkg is a fucking nightmare. Yes in the majority of those cases the system was multiple years out of date but that's no excuse I have updated art systems that were upwards of almost 10 years out of date and other than me having to manually update the key ring and reinitialize the signatures it was able to Simply jump right to the latest just fine.

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

    True, even user-friendly Linux distros have their pain points. The real difference between Linux and corporate OS products is that you don't periodically need a new version because of a product churn schedule.

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    [–] helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    As a Linux user for a few years now I have to disagree. My friends who still rely on Windows only software for either school or their jobs use Revision OS and installs it with a tool called playbooks which takes only a few minutes and automatically disables feature updates; only allowing security updates to go through. This makes it so all "system updates" are through the playbook app which is pretty cool, it pretty much makes it a Windows fork and won't revert or break anything when updating

    [–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    1, Revision OS is awesome, and good on you for sharing it!
    2, I don't think that's you disagreeing really, just offering a "third path".

    [–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

    Another day another cope post

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 31 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    If it takes you hours to debloat Windows, you better stick with an OS you do know.

    [–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    Every time I see a Linux user's criticism of a problem with Windows, it's the kind of thing your grandma asks you to fix for her and takes ten seconds 😂

    Calling Windows unstable in this day and age is fucking laughable too. If your installation is unstable, it's either you or your hardware

    [–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

    Yeach windows has problems but stability is definietly not one of them. Likewise linux has problems but in fact it is not harder to use ( in fact it is so easy to use that it is reasonably popular to put some easy distro in some forsaken by time laptop instead of windows for pepole who use browser and literaly nothing else ). Frankly speaking most pepole just dont give enough f about their system. The best i can say about it is that pop os specificaly just looks better ( i am in the apparent minority of pepole that very much likes the looks of gnome ). The best way to populrize linux is to have it by deafult instead of windows on laptops and prebuilds but that will never really happen ( they make insane amount of money on Markup by having windows installed despite the fact that they get it for really really cheap. Its really apparent when you compare some laptops that can be bought without the os preinstalled )

    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    i will try Garuda. i will not go for the easiest, because i want to improve

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    [–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 56 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

    I wish I could use Linux at work but the software used does not have any alternative (that I can use) and I can't be bothered with debloating and all that jazz. I try to keep work and private seperate instead.

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    [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago
    • The third route: install Win11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
    • The fourth route: install Gentoo
    [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    Android and iOS already replaced Windows for normies.

    [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    It's mind boggling to me how many people don't even use desktops anymore. Or do "serious" things like buy plane tickets on their phone. The younger generation is almost entirely phone-only.

    [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 14 hours ago

    Big purchase. Big screen.

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    [–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

    This won’t be popular but I haven’t had a stability problem on my home Windows 11 pro (server) machine. I disabled online login during first boot setup so maybe that’s why … my network handles telemetry shenanigans so I’m not worried about that. Never bothered to put a Linux on it, which was the plan, since it’s not failed once, it’s been a few years since it was spooled up. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    [–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

    How is your network handling telemetry shenanigans?

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