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[โ€“] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Switzerland. If you've got buckets of money it's fine but donair can easily run you 18 francs and a real meal will cost you 100+. I've visited twice and both times the extreme costs involved have hamstrung my ability to actually enjoy things. The trains and geography are amazing - but the streets full of jewelers and high fashion specifically targeting millionaires or up are an awful example of late stage capitalism.

[โ€“] Raylon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry but you're exaggerating, a full meal including drinks in a mid-level establishment will be at max. 50 chf and that's being generous. And with cheaper places you can even stay below 20 chf.

Yes, Switzerland is expensive but there's no need to lie about it. Also the stuff about millionaires and all maybe fits a couple streets in Switzerland that are very touristy but there are plenty of places not at all like this.

[โ€“] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

Donair? What's that? Fancy Doner Kebab made with Don Perignon and air?

[โ€“] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not a place in particular, but if you're driving, avoid any border crossings during peak holiday seasons. Specifically when you're crossing from the EU into non-EU countries or crossing from Schengen into non-Schengen area. During peak times you might be waiting at the border for hours.

[โ€“] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't drive! You're in Europe... trains go fucking everywhere!

[โ€“] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It seems like you've never been to Germany

[โ€“] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wanted to say that too. I mean, technically the train network is pretty well connected but it's so underfunded that trains oftentimes don't drive at all or they're late and then every train after that is also late. It's mostly fine but it happens way too often. I had to stand in freezing cold for an hour or longer too many times in the last three years where I took the train daily.

[โ€“] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know, maybe it's just particularly bad where I live, but I regularly have to the the god damn Schienenersatzverkehr, and even this god damn fucking bus that is supposed to replace the train is always like 20 minutes late. Like how the fuck do you even mess that up DB? HOW?!

[โ€“] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I had to take a SEV for a while too because there was construction on the train tracks and I came late every single day because apparently nobody at DB thought that 2 full trains (and with full I mean that people always had to stand because there weren't enough seats) couldn't just fit into one bus. That bus was always completely full (people standing in the middle up to the front door) and a lot of people still just wouldn't fit in.

[โ€“] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

But I'm sure it's gonna get better if the FDP keeps taking away funds to use them for autobahns

[โ€“] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eastern Ukraine isn't an ideal tourist spot at the moment.

[โ€“] Norgur@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

But the minefields are a banger scnr