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[–] Willie@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Ah yes, the best way to make your voice heard is to become silent.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eventually anybody would get tired of screaming into the void about equality. At some point you have to priorities your own mental health and protect yourself. It's completely normal to feel this way.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Peaceful protest is effectively ignored by our corporate controlled media, and there are so many idiots in this country that we call them looters when they do what you are supposed to do when peaceful protests are ignored.

America wants protesters to shut up and die

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I totally understand your sentiment, but I also fully understand this sentiment:

I have no goals to be a martyr for a nation that cares nothing about me

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Does it matter if your voice is heard if nobody listens?

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe then you make them listen, seems like somebody in history might have given a speech about this.

[–] ZK686@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

That's what conservative minorities say too... just an FYI...

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it matters.

Even if for no other reason than to make the nature of the oppression clear. Not talking about it normalizes it, gives tacit permission for it.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who says they're not going to talk about it? They're just going to stop doing community driven get-out-the-vote campaigns. This article is literally about how black women are a major block in the Democratic party that handles that kind of community organizing in getting people registered to vote and getting them all the info they need to vote. How's stepping back from that "not talking about it?"

This article is literally about how they help others get their voices heard, but it's black women who "aren't talking about it?" Please.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But, as indivuals, do they owe us the effort of helping our voices be heard? Because that's what this is actually about: that traditionally, black women have been some of the strongest organizers within the Democratic party. The work they do helps others get their voices heard through their votes. This year they basically got told that nobody cared, including from black men. When this is about black women helping others get their voice heard, it's pretty clear that right now nobody cares about the work they've put in to do that.

I don't blame anyone for putting in decades of hard work and feeling like it's no longer their responsibility to get others organized and get their voices heard, when the majority has made perfectly clear that they don't give one hot damn about all that hard work. Why should that job be left to some of the most vulnerable amongst us culturally, anyway?

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It might not be a bad strategy. Trump is famously undisciplined and his lackeys are treacherous. The best chance for survival might very well be to sit back and let them fuck up. Last time around he didnt manage to build the wall or repeal the ACA, not because activists stopped him, but because his own allies couldn't stop tripping over their own feet. Without someone like McConnell to hand him finished packages to rubber stamp, he could go four more years spinning in circles without implementing much of anything.

And peaceful protest is a nonstarter. Hes itching to have people killed, and giving him four years to sift through the general staff to find officers willing to do it will make things much worse in 2028.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here’s the thing: the economy is picking up steam quickly as it always does when Democrats are in charge. If Trump does nothing (and no pandemic hits) he will cruise to a third term (and yes that’s with this SC.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If he manages to implement absolutely none of his policy goals, it is plausible that the economy coasts along and does not fall off a cliff. But still that leaves everyone in the same spot. Hell be sitting there in 2028 having accomplished none of his stated policy goals after 8 years in office. His chances of getting off his ass and completing any of his talking points would not be improved.

[–] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He's gonna die and leave enthusiastic 40 year old fascists in charge.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a good chance. However, without a central figure to rally behind those fascists will fall on each other like bbq covered zombies.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I hate to say it, but there are plenty of other lightning rods in the party. Heck Nikki Haley could manage to pull a coup inside the GOP if he dies. That's the real problem for normal people. Whomever the GOP nominates they will rally around like the second coming.

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

The democratic party?

[–] Lemmywings@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

For the rich, yes, but not for the lower class.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 29 points 1 month ago

“I’m a minority but I have a trump flag. That will keep me from the work camps”

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If there was any time for any non-politician that wants to make a difference in politics to have a break, it's now. There's a long 4 years ahead of us.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately what we need is one in every single district, so about a million(?) or so?