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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago

3rd party ads lead to the roulette wheel of malware injection. M$ can't even keep the malware links off of their garbage MSN homepage on Edge. This would be an extremely dumb move, and they will do it anyway because it trades off security for money.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 81 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

To the surprise of absolutely nobody. There's no way it was going to be free and have no ads.

Edit: By the way, I don't see many people talking about it but DALL-E 3 was stealthily launched in the new Bing chat update and it's incredibly impressive. By far the best image generation AI in the market right now, and it probably won't be free for long.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It won't be free for long. MS already announced that it will be moving to a paid service shortly.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wonder if they'll use the Hulu model of "pay us money and still see ads"...

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The best, but still pretty bad at understanding some very basic ideas.

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[–] FrancisFeliz@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago
[–] the_q@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now is a great time to give Linux a shot. I recommend Pop! OS.

[–] mofongo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Does pop os also have a copilot?

[–] Massada42@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. However, it also lacks ads.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

Double bonus!

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You really, really don't need an AI assistant for regular computer usage. It's a solution in search of a problem.

There are genuinely good reasons to use GitHub Copilot if you're a developer, but otherwise, I think they're way more trouble than they're worth.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No Linux distro has, as M$ hasn't made their AIs open source. But there are people working on open source alternatives.

[–] mofongo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok that sounds awesome do you know any open source copilot projects by chance?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mofongo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Thx for the suggestions! I’ll check them out

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Theres paid ai .. like this

https://github.com/KillianLucas/open-interpreter

Give commands to chatgpt in the the terminal. Then it executes it. It can generate files, etc as well. Using python iirc.

[–] mofongo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Looks really cool! Thanks for the suggestion

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[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Microsoft has outright lost the plot with Windows. Spyware Operating System.

Linux has come a long way people, far more than you might realise and very suitable for the enterprise. Do yourself a favour, find a distribution that appeals to you and try it out.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I'm tech-comfortable but can't see myself using Linux (on my PC) until it is near-seamless. Windows is a pain in the ass in so many ways but when I want to play a game or install a program I can. I can disable all of the annoying/invasive features one time and never have to deal with them again.

I'm definitely rooting for Linux though and appreciate the users supporting the ecosystem.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

near-seamless

As near-seamless as Windows? I'd argue it's already there!

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah no, I made my home teather/Plex server computer use Linux and I'm constantly having issues with it. Getting the 5.1 audio to work properly through HDMI was impossible and everytime I try to use it I have to un plug and re plug the HDMI cable or it won't recognize the tv.

Not to mention the 6 different Nvidia driver versions I had to go trough before it would actually output image after not being recognized. With most of them I had to reboot the machine

And I also use Ubuntu on my work laptop and I'm constantly fighting it whenever I dare use my Bluetooth headphones (Why does the entire system hang when the audio drivers hang??????) and having no middle ground for windows stealing focus is annoying as fuck.

Don't get me wrong I'd like to take Ubuntu over windows any day of the week but don't tell me it's seamless because it isn't. It has a lot of unresolved issues and requires a shit ton of tinkering to do things that are done with a couple of clicks on windows

Plus good luck having legacy support for ancient financial software using wine

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago

I'd agree now. I've been 100% Linux since February and I love it. I've tried for 20 years to go to Linux and there was always something that made me go back to Windows. Now, no problems at all.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I looked at my Windows install one day and realized over half the programs I use are open source anyway. With Proton taking care of the few games I actually give a shit about, I don't miss Windows at all in the last four years.

I actually got into Linux like 23 years ago but never fully made the jump myself and delete my Windows partition until 2019. Always dual-booted until then.

I personally think KDE is the best Windows-lookalike desktop environment on Linux if you want something that looks familiar.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not trying to twist your arm or change your mind, and certainly not trying to convince you to go install linux right now, Just giving you some first hand experience in response to your statements.

But honestly, it is near seamless as is. Especially if you mostly play steam games. The only games that don't work are ones that use grossly invasive anticheats, like Asian MMOs.

Check out protondb.com if you havent yet and look up the type of games you generally play.

and if you play games from other sources, theres usually a lutris script to install it with 1 click.

Just to give a recent example, I was playing Starfield the second it unlocked via proton with zero technical issues.

[–] spuncertv@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you have an old computer you don't use much, you should consider giving linux a try. My Windows 10 installation on my desktop is far less stable than the arch instance on my laptop, and I am very much in the "still learning" phase of using it.

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Definitely still learning, a seasoned Arch user starts and/or ends every comment with "btw I use Arch"

[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly you will have far less issues on Linux in general. It is easier to install, won’t nag you for rent, it won’t change you default preferences or force apps as system and most of all won’t data mine your data and spy on you under the guise of telemetry. In saying that, it is with the possible exception of some games take a little bit to get up and running but most on steam are very easy and you will be quite surprised at how many run on Linux.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

I use VR a lot and play a couple of games that use that dumbass anticheat thing so it's really not an option for me right now. I've been toying with the idea of slapping it on my old laptop that's basically a streaming machine at this point, but I'm tired and old lol

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use windows mostly for gaming now. If I'm doing anything else, I swap to my Linux disk. I don't use Arch, by the way, I use Fedora.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I was doing something similar for a while, but I found I struggled with inertia enough that I kept doing non-gaming stuff on Windows. I switched to using Fedora as my main operating system, getting rid of Windows entirely, and I've been pleasantly surprised by how straightforward gaming has been. (Though as I understand it, it's trickier for people with Nvidia GPUs)

[–] michael@leuker.me 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sigh, one more thing for the list ...

"Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

"Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. Oh, and in our operating systems. But not in dreams. No siree!"

[–] buycurious@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft: the beatings will continue until morale improves

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Microsoft: We now inject the malware attack vector directly into your OS because it makes us slightly more money.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Microsoft will keep doing this shit until their monopoly is broken.

I don't know why people are continuously surprised at MS doing scummy things when they pretty much control the market, have little to no competition, and regulators have proven they don't care.

[–] itsraining@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Like it wouldn't.

Please, it's 2023. Corporarions have totally embraced the "you are the product" model. They offer you a service on their infrastructure ("the cloud") on their terms, which they can modify and terminate on will. Then they make money by selling your data, showing you ads and using your data to personalize those ads so that you are more likely to click on them.

Shame or ethics? Please, it's money that makes the world go round. Ads in every app! Ads on the web! Ads in every corner of the city! Ads on public transport! More ads! Even more ads! No square centimeter of physical and virtual space left unused!

It's really pathetic.

[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Truly amazing. Usually you roll out these features, get the userbase involved and intrigued at these new features, get used to them and THEN try and monetize it to capitalize on the sunk cost feeling

[–] macallik@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Come on over to Linux yall, the ~~water's~~ open-source vibes are fine

[–] Fish@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was finally able to get rid of the ads in Windows. I'm sure that it doesn't block everything, but editing the 'hosts' file helps. At least I don't see any ads in Windows anymore. Here is an simple tutorial that I found on how to do so:

youtu.be/IJr2DcffquI

[–] clanginator@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I removed copilot the instant I saw it. I don't need any more Microsoft online shit built into my OS, thanks. (I also use Arch, but Windows kernel anti-cheat)

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I keep telling myself im going to give linux a try at some point, and I should probably get familiar with it as soon as possible

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Your instinct is right, because it does take a little bit of time to be familiar enough that it's automatic, but it doesn't need to be a big daunting thing - I first dabbled with Linux running in a virtual box. Then I dual booted for a while. Now I'm running just Linux. Dipping your toe in the water is good

[–] retfma@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

acts surprised

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Ok, I won't update anymore my Windows..

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I had a brief look at enabling this but I didn't see the point. Copilot in the office suite or outlook makes sense though.

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