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[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Honest-to-God question: is Elongated Muskrat intentionally screwing up Twitter so people can’t use it as a means to communicate? It sounds like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, but it’s the only logical thing I could think of at this point that explains this kind of stuff they’re pulling.

[–] SecUnit451@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, that gives Elon just an easy out, making him look as if he is actually competent. Which he is not.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

daily reminder that elon doesn't work on rockets or cars, HIS EMPLOYEES FUCKING DO THAT.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

In the way that no boss, manager or team leader works on anything, as they "just" order workers around. You really think his employees came up with something as dumb as the cybertruck on their own?

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

He's never worked a day in his life

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think initially, he just wanted to do his duty as a right-wing reactionary and use his influence to shame Twitter for deplatforming white supremacists, likely having heard that Truth Social was eying up a plot next to every other dead social network that pandered to fascists.

But like every other figurehead of that crowd, below the bluster and bravado lies a very tiny dick and his preferred method of wearing shorts in the shower is spending millions of dollars in an effort to convince everyone he is the smartest man in the world.

So pretentious screeds about "free speech absolutism" quickly turned into self-aggrandizing posts about how he could do it better and before he even got a chance to call someone a pedo, he'd accidentally made some comments about buying Twitter that he was legally obligated to follow through on.

He tried to squirm out of it for a while, muttering about bots and whatnots, but it seems his lawyers informed him that yes, he had also bragged away his opportunity to back out and he was going to have to follow through.

And so a couple of months later, he walked into a mostly empty office with 4 goals in mind.

First, he needed to get far-right propaganda back on track. Too many people had started to see through the "we're not neo-nazis we just have the opinions, goals and pundits", plausible deniability schtick and the far-right funnel just wasn't flowing how it used to before all the domestic terrorism.

That kicked off a flurry of actions like unbanning mentally ill hip-hop artists, internationally embarrassing politicians and pseudo-intellectuals who'd spent decades striving to achieve mediocrity before they said something bigoted and were immediately placed on a pedestal.

Second, he needed to self-soothe after doing something so stupid in front of so many people. $44 billion dollars down the drain! That's not what the smartest man in the world would do! Especially not if money was the only thing that made him noteworthy in the first place.

So he marched around unplugging things and pretending he knew what he was talking about and wasn't just lifting key phrases from more intelligent people like a celebrity parrot.

It was an unconvincing show for anyone in the industry who quickly realised he barely had a junior-level understanding of a single moving part, let alone the hundreds that keep a site like Twitter online.

Third, he needed to claw back every penny he could, carefully balancing things like "gleefully firing all the heartbroken staff" with other important business like "indulging his teenage edgelord".

But each new idea is even more dogshit than the last. He bought a sinking ship and he's trying to bail out the water with every piece of cutlery in the kitchen. It's only a matter of time before the office supplies turn up on ebay.

And fourth and, probably most importantly: "Are there any women in this place worth manipulating into prostitution? I need everybody back in the office tomorrow for a face to face"

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are people that benefit from Twitter sinking (foreign governments, the US government, Twitter’s Saudi investor), so this has been my theory as well. I don’t think it’s a scenario where he’s aware though. I think he’s a useful idiot that can be manipulated.

[–] lol3droflxp@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So the Saudi investor invests in something that he wants to go broke?

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

You may underestimate the amount of money the Saudi government has

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 1 year ago

That’s precisely why they invested in it. Sinking that ship means that one of the few remaining lifelines for working class communication around the world goes down in flames. When mass protests, school shootings, the Capitol invasion, and police violence occurred, which social media platform was almost always the place you’d end up reading about it from someone on the ground? Twitter. Think about how much easier the narrative can be controlled when Twitter is gone (or at least behind walls).

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

For political aims, possibly. What is sure is that Twitter would never be able to repay the amount of debt the company got saddled with. It was barely making ends meet and now it has to pay an additional billion dollars a year in interest. Why would someone would put their money in such a bad deal?

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The capability of stupidity to explain things adequately when it comes to business and politics is very limited. In both those fields there are people constantly enacting malicious schemes and playing dumb.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think he knows it is a money pit that will never be profitable so is intentionally trying to kill it. It will never make him money only cost him money. He can't just shut it down without seriously damaging what credibility he has left. Seriously, what are his options to stop this 'money leak?'

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think shuttering it would have saved more of his credibility than whatever the fuck this is he’s doing.

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[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, he could try to actually make it a usable platform and offer features people might be willing to pay for?

Think about it, this blue checkmark subscription would have absolutely worked two years ago. You have to prove who you are, pay 10 bucks a month and then you'll get the checkmark. A lot of people and institutions would have done that.

Offering advanced, paid features for professionals might also help. Like user management or thread based user mappings, so that large accounts can get management by a team efficiently. Companies are definitely willing to pay substantial amounts of money for things like that.

[–] pensa@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could he though? I don't think he is that smart. He has smart people running his other companies, but he is running the show at twitter. I think this is us seeing him fail when left on his own.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

That is not the question. He does have option, whether he is willing and able to realize them, is another question.

Anyway, unless there is some serious change of policy (and realistically, ownership) happening over a Twitter, is will slowly die off.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first thing he did at Twitter (as it was called back then) was to fire most developers. There’s no way he can introduce significant new features.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Not anymore, no. But that would have been an option.

I mean there's communication between Musk and right wing figures before the sale about driving all the blue checks off and devaluating the company which we know about because the messages and communications were released in the court battle

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, he's just incompetent. At his other companies he has handlers, at Twitter he doesn't

[–] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Destroying Twitter was always his goal. He really thought the "blue checks" were some cabal of liberal elites that Twitter facilitated so they could suppress the speech of others, and day one his whole purpose was to break that imagined control.

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You give him far too much credit. Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Malice and stupidity aren't exclusive, though. His actions can be stupid and malicious

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The only reason why I'm not so keen on the conspiracy, is that it doesn't make sense to me that someone so wealthy would have to stake this destruction on his own reputation and take collateral losses on his other business if he was being machiavellian about it. He could tell his puppet CEO to take all those destructive measures and still maintain his tech genius image. It just seems more like a wild ego thing.

But the people who funded his acquisition, this obvious hare-brained idea, maybe they were aiming for its destruction. They should have known that he was paying far more than the website was worth and that its income would never repay it.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m just waiting for

“After moving all features behind a paywall, Musk hides the Login button.”

At this point, he’s obviously just trolling.

At this point, he’s obviously just ~~trolling~~ an idiot.

[–] artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

He shouldjusyt shut it down at this point

[–] artaxadepressedhorse@lemmyngs.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, everyone here, if you know somebody still using Twitter, you should take the time to inform them about mastodon and explain why continuing to use that dying abusive platform and give Musk legitimacy is a bad idea.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

You're not going to argue them out of Twitter. If they're still there, it's not for rational reasons. It's because of nostalgia, or because they're part of communities that are stuck facing the Fiddler on the Roof problem.

Shaming them for staying isn't going to work, either. We need to make a space for them to move to, not away from, and, frankly, the Fediverse just isn't that right now.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago

2 weeks from now “Elon musk plans to lock the ability to like and retweet behind subscription”

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we simply stop talking about Twitter? At this time, we're just drawing traffic to articles about it, encouraging more free advertising for Twitter to be made

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbh i like this circling around the dying zebu part of media, especially when its about an oligarch slowly consuming himself!

[–] Legendsofanus@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Dying zebu?

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[–] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never understood the appeal of twitter before Elon bought it, and I understand it less with every news report about it since.

[–] java@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was a great place to share information in a short and clear manner. You could subscribe to journalists working in your area, a professor from MIT or another university, follow sport journalists, war analysts - you name it. They all posted their thoughts and links to their articles, interviews or podcasts with them, they shared information about their new books. Twitter was like an RSS feed, where you could subscribe to authors directly. You could write them and get a reply! It was and probably still is a great tool, though Musk is taking a lot of steps to destroy it.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago

making the experience worse to force people to click on tweets and drive up impressions inflating user counts

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

This new arrangement of deck chairs will make the Titanic's voyage perfect.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 1 year ago

Next up on the chopping block: Posting and reading tweets.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Here's an empty bucket to yell into so you can hear your own voice. That'll be $12/month. Thanks.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I always wondered why they didn’t use gestures. Going from using Apollo to to Twitter was jarring.

Not that it matters now, I fixed that by just not going to X.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to make 44B$ disappear: For aspiring billionaire magicians with no control over their tongue or egos.

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[–] Whiskeyomega@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Almost a year since I started Cupoftea.social on Mastodon and left twitter and things have been going well and sign up waves every time Musk does something

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I do appreciate how he and Spez seem to do things that annoy only a fraction of their users at a time; it allows the Fediverse to adapt to the incoming waves of users before the next wave hits.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon Musk takes the socialization out of social networks! What an innovation!

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[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

It was like this on the Flamingo app aswell and I prefered it that way. I almost never interact with any tweets so those buttons were just useless clutter for me.

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